Checklists

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   The IFDs allow the user to create extensive checklists.  There can be up to 450 entries (9 different checklists with up to 50 entries each.  With up to 30 characters per entry, that could be up to 13,500 characters!

How about a little survey?  
 - Are you using the Checklist function?  
 - If you are, about how many of the 450 possible fields contain data??  
 - How did you input the data? (touch screen, wireless KB, ??)

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FlyingCOham Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 30 Oct 2015 Location: COS (KFLY) Status: Offline Points: 125	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyingCOham Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Checklists Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 1:12pm
	The IFDs allow the user to create extensive checklists. There can be up to 450 entries (9 different checklists with up to 50 entries each. With up to 30 characters per entry, that could be up to 13,500 characters! How about a little survey? - Are you using the Checklist function? - If you are, about how many of the 450 possible fields contain data?? - How did you input the data? (touch screen, wireless KB, ??)
	Jim Patton

roltman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 04 Aug 2011 Status: Offline Points: 173	Post Options Post Reply Quote roltman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 1:22pm
	Yes, I entered them. Never really used them because after 10yrs with the plane I have "Flow Patterns" down, but I did enter them. I used all 9 checklists and realized I needed more (IIRC I needed 14). Since they don't cross sync, the Normal checklists went on Bottom IFD540 and Emergency checklists on Top IFD540. I used the desktop IFD simulator to create them and then transferred them using USB.

safari Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 28 Apr 2014 Location: Sedona Status: Offline Points: 55	Post Options Post Reply Quote safari Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 1:37pm
	I entered them and yes needed more than 9 so had to combine some. I mostly use the before take off and approach check list. Very handy to have them there so you do not have to worry about mis placing a paper copy. I just used the on screen keyboard to enter them because the key board was not out yet which would have been easier. I would suggest more than 9 checklists would be good.
	Dave

pburger Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 26 Dec 2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 406	Post Options Post Reply Quote pburger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 2:56pm
	1. No 2. n/a 3. n/a I have always used printed checklists.

brou0040 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2012 Location: KIYK Status: Offline Points: 722	Post Options Post Reply Quote brou0040 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 7:53pm
	I'm using all 9 checklists, it would be nice to have a few more available. They have between 3 and 25 entries per checklist, but most are 8 or 9 entries. I have my laminated paper checklists still available, but I've been using the 540 checklists almost exclusively. I like how the checklists remember where you left off. I can just hit the aux rocker and be right back at my checklist. I pretty much only use the aux pages for the checklists while in flight.

DavidBunin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 20 May 2015 Location: Rockwall, TX Status: Offline Points: 742	Post Options Post Reply Quote DavidBunin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 10:14am
	I have four checklists: BEFORE TAKEOFF CRUISE BEFORE LANDING AFTER LANDING I created them on my home computer and took them to the airplane in a USB stick. Today, I might use the IFD BT Keyboard to create or edit them. I still have paper checklists, because the IFD is of no use to me during a preflight inspection walkaround or for engine starting. I only use the IFD checklists for "killer items" like having the mixture rich for takeoff. There are very few killer items in a 172. For example, I will never forget to lower the gear. None of my checklists run beyond the visible screen on the 540. David Bunin

brou0040 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2012 Location: KIYK Status: Offline Points: 722	Post Options Post Reply Quote brou0040 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 10:26am
	One of the reasons my checklists are long is because I have my preferred power settings listed. I like to fly at 65% so I have those power settings extracted from my POH. Essentially the different steps in the checklist are altitudes and the contents of each item are RPM, Manifold Pressure, Temp, and Fuel Flow. I also have power and flap settings that will give me intended airspeed and rate of descent for instrument approaches.

pburger Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 26 Dec 2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 406	Post Options Post Reply Quote pburger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 5:05pm
	brou0040 -- That's a novel use of the checklist feature! I have an IO-360, and thank goodness some guy wrote a slick little app for the iPhone that gives the power settings at various altitudes and temps. It's awesome. I spot checked it against the Lycoming manual and it's dead on. You put in the altitude, temperature, %power, and whether you want best power or best economy. it then spits out a table of manifold pressures and RPMs with the corresponding expected fuel flow. I set the MP and rpm, and then lean to the appropriate EGT (peak for best economy, and 100 deg ROP for best power) the resulting fuel flow is dead on. If in a hurry, I just lean to the fuel flow from the app. I've been using that app for several years.

Don Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 21 Jan 2014 Location: Fort Worth Status: Offline Points: 58	Post Options Post Reply Quote Don Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 7:16pm
	pburger I have an O-360 will that app work the same ?? and what is it ??

pburger Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 26 Dec 2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 406	Post Options Post Reply Quote pburger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 2016 at 1:27pm
	It's specifically for the IO-360. It's called IO-360 Power Calculator. It's free. I don't have the Lycoming engine manual handy, but I suppose the O-360 power settings would be similar.

FlyingCOham Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 30 Oct 2015 Location: COS (KFLY) Status: Offline Points: 125	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyingCOham Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 12:18pm
	Follow-up/Close-out of this thread: Almost 500 people read the thread, 4 people answered Yes, they use the Checklist function, 1 person said no. Interesting??? Thanks for your thoughts. Jim
	Jim Patton

centerforcekid Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 10 Feb 2016 Location: KPRC Status: Offline Points: 21	Post Options Post Reply Quote centerforcekid Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 2:17pm
	This issues i had were that Upper and Lower case letters can't be used. certain 'killer' items can't be hightlighted so to speak. I really think a step by step video would be a great idea, especially now that the keyboard is out. I do like that little keyboard, fits right in my pocket and when we are bouncing around it's way easier to input data. Just my two cents. Pat.
	Seneca II

Joe Jet Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 22 Dec 2013 Location: F70 Status: Offline Points: 73	Post Options Post Reply Quote Joe Jet Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Feb 2016 at 11:26pm
	Not using checklists in my Bonanza yet. Using them in my Aerostar. I am only using this function for emergency and non-normal checklists. So far I have engine failure and hyd sys failure/gear extension in there. Used the BT KB to enter.
	A36 w/IFD 540, PA60 w/IFD 540