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N927BC
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Posted: 11 Jan 2017 at 12:24pm |
Does the IFD540 qualify as a FMS in the ICAO flight plan? Do I check the FMS box on the ICAO flight plan form
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Catani
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The IFD is an FMS. I don't see an FMS box on the ICAO flight plan form.
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ansond
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Looking through the equipment options, I am thinking: SBGLORY
Thoughts? Catchy... Doug
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mfb
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This is how I do it. The screen shots are from DUATS but any flight planning software will be similar. I have an MLB100, so I have 1090 ADS-B out and UAT ADS-B in. But there's no code for that. So it's indicated by the 260B in the SUR/ field. There was another thread here a long time ago that explained it. All of the other field values are derived from the information in the IFD540 flight manual supplement. The CODE/ field is the hexadecimal address of my transponder. Mike |
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wsh
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Actually
You are missing Y. In europe this is now relevant in many countries. |
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chflyer
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There was already a long discussion within the last week on this in the Entegra General Information forum. Although the codes might be slightly different depending on the box, I would suggest that the Avidyne moderator merge the two since the discussion is largely overlapping.
R and the associated PBN remark is a can of worms and isn't necessary (or used by ATC) in the USA. As far as I know it is only required for IFR flight plans in Europe. It is designed to reflect performance capability/approval and not just installed equipment. I think the PBN list above is too short for a normal IFD installation. I would suggest the following: PBN/A1B2C2D2L1O2S1. That is what is coded by autorouter.eu if the aircraft is configured with an Avidyne IFD box. Yes, Y is needed for Europe due to certain airspace requirements for 8.33kHz. If it is coded then the IFD also needs to have 8.33kHz selected in the SETUP/User Options. Is 8.33kHz used at all in the USA?
Edited by chflyer - 12 Jan 2017 at 2:58am |
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wsh
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I use: SBDFGRY/S and in other information PBN/B2S1 NAV/SBAS I do however have both DME and ADF which are used in Europe.
Many of the other PBN codes require additional equipment which you will typically not find in GA aircraft.
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oskrypuch
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No, not in US nor Canada. There may be a move to assign 833 spacing for some of the high enroute frequencies, which won't affect small plane GA. I have 833 turned OFF, to speed up tuning. * Orest |
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oskrypuch
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That is what I came up with a few years ago, reading through the codes. I think that ATC on this side of the Atlantic ignores that string for the most part, so for now it doesn't make a lot of difference what you have. * Orest Edited by oskrypuch - 12 Jan 2017 at 8:10am |
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Ibraham
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This is from the Avidyne official tech support portal
https://techsupport.avidyne.com/portal/helpcenter/articles/ifd540-ifd440-icao-filing-codes
FD540 / IFD440 ICAO Filing Codes540/440 Equipment Qualifier:
B – LPV L – ILS O – VOR R – PBN Approved S – VHF, VOR, ILS Y – VHF w/8.33 kHz spacing
PBN string:
A1 – RNP10 C2 – RNAV-2 D2 – RNAV-1 L1 – RNP4 S1 – RNP APCH
And if the AXP340 or AXP322 are thrown in, you pick up
Surveillance:
E – Mode S, including aircraft ID, pressure altitude, extended squitter B1 – ADS-B with dedicated 1090 MHz ADS-B Out Capability |
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chflyer
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The above list is also in the FAQ, question 6.
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Vince
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Catani
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As I understand the codes required by the FAA for US operators (and I’m willing to be
corrected as may be necessary):
Item 10 should include neither L nor O, since S already indicates that capability. The letter G is missing from Item 10, which is required to indicate that the IFD is a GPS capable system. And the letter Z is missing, which is required to indicate that there are “other” entries in Item 18 besides PBN. Missing from Item 18 is NAV/SBAS, indicating that the IFD WAAS capability relies upon a Space Based Augmentation System (as opposed to a ground-based system). It is this entry that requires the letter Z in Item 10. See JO 7110.10Y, Appendix A – ICAO Flight Plans. In my plane, which has an IFD440 and an ADS-B 1090 in and out system, my codes are: Item 10: SBGRYZ/EB2 Item 18: PBN/A1C2D2L1S1 NAV/SBAS SUR/260B CODE/XXXX Not sure why Avidyne does not include B2 in the PBN string, but I’m assuming it’s because C2 (RNP 2) is a stiffer requirement than B2 (RNP 5) capability, and because B2 reflects Europe’s RNP 5 (B-RNAV) standard, which is apparently not used in the US. You could omit the PBN codes A1 and L1 if you don’t fly in oceanic airspace. |
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