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    Posted: 11 Jan 2017 at 12:24pm
Does the IFD540 qualify as a FMS in the ICAO flight plan? Do I check the FMS box on the ICAO flight plan form
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The IFD is an FMS.  I don't see an FMS box on the ICAO flight plan form.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ansond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jan 2017 at 4:27pm
Looking through the equipment options, I am thinking: SBGLORY

Thoughts? Catchy... 

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This is how I do it. The screen shots are from DUATS but any flight planning software will be similar.







I have an MLB100, so I have 1090 ADS-B out and UAT ADS-B in. But there's no code for that. So it's indicated by the 260B in the SUR/ field. There was another thread here a long time ago that explained it.

All of the other field values are derived from the information in the IFD540 flight manual supplement. The CODE/ field is the hexadecimal address of my transponder.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wsh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jan 2017 at 1:44am
Actually

You are missing Y.
In europe this is now relevant in many countries.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chflyer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jan 2017 at 2:58am
There was already a long discussion within the last week on this in the Entegra General Information forum. Although the codes might be slightly different depending on the box, I would suggest that the Avidyne moderator merge the two since the discussion is largely overlapping.

R and the associated PBN remark is a can of worms and isn't necessary (or used by ATC) in the USA. As far as I know it is only required for IFR flight plans in Europe. It is designed to reflect performance capability/approval and not just installed equipment. I think the PBN list above is too short for a normal IFD installation. I would suggest the following: PBN/A1B2C2D2L1O2S1. That is what is coded by autorouter.eu if the aircraft is configured with an Avidyne IFD box.

Yes, Y is needed for Europe due to certain airspace requirements for 8.33kHz. If it is coded then the IFD also needs to have 8.33kHz selected in the SETUP/User Options. Is 8.33kHz used at all in the USA?


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I use:

SBDFGRY/S

and in other information
PBN/B2S1 NAV/SBAS

I do however have both DME and ADF which are used in Europe.

Many of the other PBN codes require additional equipment which you will typically not find in GA aircraft.
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Originally posted by chflyer chflyer wrote:

.... Is 8.33kHz used at all in the USA?

No, not in US nor Canada. There may be a move to assign 833 spacing for some of the high enroute frequencies, which won't affect small plane GA.

I have 833 turned OFF, to speed up tuning.

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Originally posted by chflyer chflyer wrote:

... I would suggest the following: PBN/A1B2C2D2L1O2S1. That is what is coded by autorouter.eu if the aircraft is configured with an Avidyne IFD box.

That is what I came up with a few years ago, reading through the codes. I think that ATC on this side of the Atlantic ignores that string for the most part, so for now it doesn't make a lot of difference what you have.

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This is from the Avidyne official tech support portal

https://techsupport.avidyne.com/portal/helpcenter/articles/ifd540-ifd440-icao-filing-codes

FD540 / IFD440 ICAO Filing Codes

540/440 Equipment Qualifier:

 

B – LPV

L – ILS

O – VOR

R – PBN Approved

S – VHF, VOR, ILS

Y – VHF w/8.33 kHz spacing

 

PBN string:

 

A1 – RNP10

C2 – RNAV-2

D2 – RNAV-1

L1 – RNP4

S1 – RNP APCH

 

 

And if the AXP340 or AXP322 are thrown in, you pick up

 

Surveillance:

 

E – Mode S, including aircraft ID, pressure altitude, extended squitter

B1 – ADS-B with dedicated 1090 MHz ADS-B Out Capability

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The above list is also in the FAQ, question 6.
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As I understand the codes required by the FAA for US operators (and I’m willing to be corrected as may be necessary):

Item 10 should include neither L nor O, since S already indicates that capability.  The letter G is missing from Item 10, which is required to indicate that the IFD is a GPS capable system.  And the letter Z is missing, which is required to indicate that there are “other” entries in Item 18 besides PBN.

Missing from Item 18 is NAV/SBAS, indicating that the IFD WAAS capability relies upon a Space Based Augmentation System (as opposed to a ground-based system).  It is this entry that requires the letter Z in Item 10.  See JO 7110.10Y, Appendix A – ICAO Flight Plans.

In my plane, which has an IFD440 and an ADS-B 1090 in and out system, my codes are:

Item 10:  SBGRYZ/EB2

Item 18:  PBN/A1C2D2L1S1  NAV/SBAS  SUR/260B  CODE/XXXX

Not sure why Avidyne does not include B2 in the PBN string, but I’m assuming it’s because C2 (RNP 2) is a stiffer requirement than B2 (RNP 5) capability, and because B2 reflects Europe’s RNP 5 (B-RNAV) standard, which is apparently not used in the US.

You could omit the PBN codes A1 and L1 if you don’t fly in oceanic airspace.

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