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wpierce ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2021 Location: Memphis, TN Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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Currently I'm a VFR only pilot, I purchased an IFD 550 for my Mooney last year and plan on getting my IFR cert in 2022. I've never loaded the Jeppesen charts and plan on doing this very soon, I have a couple of questions. 1. How long does it take to load all three data bases? 2. Will a trickle charger keep the battery strong enough to complete the upload process? (12 volt M201) 3. Do I need to rent an APU for the day? 4. If I update all three databases does that lock me in to that price point or can I just get a 2 database going forward? Any thing else I should be asking but don't know what to ask? Thank you for your guidance.
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dmtidler ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Feb 2016 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 617 |
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While database updates are really easy to perform, I would
recommend reading the IFD PM section regarding database updates to make sure
you have a good understanding of the process. One technique I will offer that
has served me well through nearly five years of hassle-free database updates, I
don’t insert or remove the USB flash drive while the IFD is powered. I insert
the USB flash drive before turning on the avionics power switch and leave it in
until the after-update reboot is complete and the avionics power switch has
been turned off. |
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wpierce ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2021 Location: Memphis, TN Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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Thank you dmtidler, this helps a lot. |
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HenryM ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 13 Oct 2017 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 501 |
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I only get a Nav database subscription. Obstacles don't change much, and I prefer to see charts on Foreflight on my iPad. Foreflight also includes obstacles. It takes seconds to update the whole US nav database on my IFD540.
I had a charts subscription for a while, but eventually switched to just Nav. I didn't find the screen of the IFD540 on the center stack of a Cessna 182 that readable to make the charts practical. Instead I have my iPad near me, and I can zoom in as needed. I prefer to keep the map and other data blocks visible on the IFD while I look at charts on the iPad. I use the IFD to follow a flight plan and to drive my autopilot. I update obstacles once in a while, but don't subscribe on a regular basis. I use Foreflight for much of the reading of maps and charts. I don't rely on the IFD for obstacle clearance.
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wpierce ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2021 Location: Memphis, TN Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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Thank you, Henry. I figured that since this was the first time to get the Jeppesen stuff I would get all 3 then go to just the charts. I also made sure that the "bundle" I was looking for would allow me to use the charts on Foreflight as well as the IFD.
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HenryM ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 13 Oct 2017 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 501 |
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You would want just Nav Data, not charts. Charts are approach plates.
I think you're better off buying Jepp charts for mobile devices through Foreflight, rather than Jepp. At least it used to be that way, because you could use them on more devices if you got the chart bundle through Foreflight. Jepp only allowed installation on one mobile device. Recently, I think the mobile device licenses from Jepp were no longer usable for Foreflight. I suppose if you want to use the IFD100 app to view charts, you'd benefit from the chart subscription for the IFD550. I don't use that app much. I would find it more useful if I had an IFD440. With the larger IFDs, I prefer to use that screen for most functions and Foreflight on the iPad. However, I'm sure others have different preferences. My iPad is not dedicated to my plane. It makes sense to get everything for now, to figure out what your preferences are. If you decide to change before the end of your subscription time, Jepp will credit any unused time you have left on any of these subscriptions.
Edited by HenryM - 03 Jan 2022 at 5:12pm |
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Froethel ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 2016 Location: Selden, NY Status: Offline Points: 54 |
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I look at this a bit differently. I purchase all I need. I figure I spend way more on scotch that this database costs. Just my $0.02
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HenryM ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 13 Oct 2017 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 501 |
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i concur on purchasing all I need. I just don't use charts on my IFD540. I can't read them well on a small screen an arm length away from me. If I could read them well, I'd get them. However, I don't like spending money needlessly on something I have no use for.
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eloigorri ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 05 Jun 2021 Location: Thailand Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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Also bear in mind that once you load the charts, you cannot unload / delete them, so if moving forward you drop the charts subscription you will start to get the "charts out of date" warning every time you boot up the IFD unit.
Apparently it will be possible to unselect the charts as being required in v10.3... Cheers -E
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atomsite ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jun 2020 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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I believe you only need the NavData to fly legal IFR. Better to use a tablet to look at charts than the small screen on the Avidyne. Or even old school, and look at paper charts. Also, it doesn’t hurt to have redundancy. (The DPE might make you use paper charts anyway. It varies.)
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HenryM ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 13 Oct 2017 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 501 |
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I use the charts on Foreflight. I can't read the ones on my IFD540. I agree with the prior post, and use my tablet for the approach charts rather than the IFD.
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rpostmo ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 20 Jul 2015 Location: North Dakota Status: Offline Points: 162 |
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HenryM ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 13 Oct 2017 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 501 |
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I suppose if you use the IFD100 app, charts on the OFD might be useful. Flying alone in my Cessna 182 I prefer ForeFlight. I can see how other setups would be different.
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