Slingshot wireless

https://youtu.be/-xAaSrtWrYg

Navdata updates take about a minute, and Obstacles about 20 secs, from the USB stick, minimizing the amount of time needed to do anything in the plane. The charts (if you have them) do take a little longer. But, the more time consuming bit is updating the USB stick, and that is done at my leisure at home, when I notice JDM has an update.

Edited by oskrypuch - 21 Jul 2018 at 3:33pm

Please don't add any vulnerabilities to our IFDs.  If updating from the internet via wifi is as safe as the current process, then great, but I wouldn't want to add an unnecessary cyber vulnerability.

The nonstarter in that is that SA does charts, but as I recall this topic last year or so, doesn't do navdata.

ddgates wrote: The nonstarter in that is that SA does charts, but as I recall this topic last year or so, doesn't do navdata.

94S wrote: I've read that before, but when I open FlyQ I see all of the nav data, terrain and obstacles in addition to the charts.  It is not just a chart viewer.  FlyQ would not be an EFB if it didn't have the other data.  So, my conclusion is that SA has all the data the IFD needs, it's just maybe not in a compatible format, which is something that can change if the wheel squeaks loud and long enough. As for the outside the US issue, I know SA has recently added Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean and have said they are working on the rest.  Someday that argument will go away. David

Please don't interpret my posts on this subject as any kind of disparaging remarks regarding Seattle Avionics.  They are a good company and they have an excellent product in FlyQ.  We're happy to have them as partners using our WiFi connectivity.  I've spoken many times personally to Steve Podradchik and we get along quite well.

LANCE wrote: I had an outstanding experience updating my subscription with Bonnie Jurus of Jeppesen today at Oshkosh. Great attention to detail. She allowed me to get a 440 package for my 550 since I don't use the charts. She gave me free months of service for being a loyal customer and gave me her e-mail address to contact her if I ever have any issues. On top of that she gave me a VIP pass to watch the airshow from the rooftop lounge of the Boeing building. One of the best customer experiences I've ever had with any company.

I have delt with Bonnie several times myself.  She is great and represents the best of Jeppesen.

MysticCobra wrote: Believe me, with Jepp, my expectations are set extremely low.  However, Bonnie (I'm pretty sure that's the rep I spoke to) gave herself the challenge of changing my low opinion of Jepp, by promising to find a solution I'd be happy with "within a couple of weeks".  She was so full of sunshine about the situation that unicorns and rainbows were still coming out of my phone for 10 minutes after I hung up.

ROTFL!

MysticCobra wrote: That was back in February, and I'm still waiting for her to call me back. I didn't fault her for not immediately solving my problem.  I am faulting her for telling me she's going to do something, and then leaving me in the wind. Ain't no excuse for that.  Even if she'd eventually called me back and said, "Sorry, I tried, and I got nuthin'," it'd have been better than blowing smoke up my rear and walking away.

Couldn't agree more.  No excuse for the lack of follow-up

So I would love to see SA as a supplier to Avidyne for panel mount systems and using Slingshot as the delivery method makes perfect sense to me. I do agree that the data would have to be both Nav Data as well as the full approach data in order to 1) be fully compliant with FAA regulations regarding currency of panel mount systems for legally flying an approach and 2) to enable the use of all the features of the IFD panel mount devices - both 440 and 540.

Having competition is always a good thing and could help bring about changes to what is essentially a Jeppesen monopoly. Today Garmin is getting into this business and customers have the ability to source their data from Jeppesen or Garmin and today Garmin is generally a cheaper solution. Seems we could have the same and Avidyne just needs to work with quality suppliers like Seattle Avionics on the data formats etc. Ideally this then does save me a ton of money as today I pay SA for charts for my EFB and then I pay Jepp for essentially the same data.

I also believe that I need to pay Jepp twice as I have two panel mount systems and while I can load the same USB stick on both the license from Jeppesen is for a single device. I would love to be wrong here and cut my annual Jepp subscription in half but I would be even happier to cut it out completely and get the data from SA where I will already be paying as they have the top EFB product (in my opinion).

I have dual 440's so don't care about charts. Charts are on my iPAD and for the Pacific Northwest I have the Jepp subscription for my Avidyne EX5000 as I like having the charts for my normal flying region on the MFD as well.

I will double check with Jepp but in the past they wanted a subscription per radio as that was the only way to be able to program data cards for dual 430's that were in the plane before I recently upgraded to the dual 440 configuration.

My hope was that SA could be the source of approach data but that likely is locked up by Jepp regardless but if not.....

what package does Jepp offer for the NavData?

Cruiser wrote: what package does Jepp offer for the NavData? I just got an invoice from Jepp for  NavData IFR Coverage Avidyne IFD440 Full USA and  NavData IFR Coverage Avidyne IFD540 Full USA are you guys suggesting these are the same? Can I use the IFD440 Navdata in the IFD540? thanks,

Hey Mystic, I have an IFD540, but haven't downloaded any NavData for a couple years. We are flying to BVI shortly. Imagine my surprise when I went to the Jepp website, and am unable to see any data package pricing!

440 and 540 nav data are exactly the same.