Feature Request: Timers

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   1) Allow fuel tank timer to start timing from wheels up (in-air).
At least for me, the timer on this should start from wheels up, not power up. It is the in-air time that you need, as that is when you burn fuel at a significant rate. I also have a very good idea of how much fuel I should have burned in the first 30 min, and that is a good checkpoint. If you introduce the variability of the time of the ground run, that eliminates that as a useful check.

2) Have a predefined timer block that shows:

Time out (power up)
Time in (ground, before shutdown, could just be the "current" time once landed)
Total time in air (*) - in fractional hours
Block time (Time out to Time in) - in fractional hours

Optionally you could also add Time off (wheels up) and Time on (landing time).

I need at least the first four for every flight.

(*) There is no way to configure the Total time in air currently, you can sort of get the Block Time, but it would be nice if all four were available in a discrete block, all available at a glance.

* Orest

Edited by oskrypuch - 19 Nov 2014 at 4:26pm

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oskrypuch Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 09 Nov 2012 Location: CYFD Status: Offline Points: 3062	Post Options Post Reply Quote oskrypuch Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Feature Request: Timers Posted: 18 Nov 2014 at 6:07pm
	1) Allow fuel tank timer to start timing from wheels up (in-air). At least for me, the timer on this should start from wheels up, not power up. It is the in-air time that you need, as that is when you burn fuel at a significant rate. I also have a very good idea of how much fuel I should have burned in the first 30 min, and that is a good checkpoint. If you introduce the variability of the time of the ground run, that eliminates that as a useful check. 2) Have a predefined timer block that shows: Time out (power up) Time in (ground, before shutdown, could just be the "current" time once landed) *Total time in air () - in fractional hours Block time (Time out to Time in) - in fractional hours Optionally you could also add Time off (wheels up) and Time on** (landing time). I need at least the first four for every flight. () There is no way to configure the Total time in air currently, you can sort of get the Block Time, but it would be nice if all four were available in a discrete block, all available at a glance. Orest Edited by oskrypuch - 19 Nov 2014 at 4:26pm

ptlevine Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 06 Aug 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 53	Post Options Post Reply Quote ptlevine Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Nov 2014 at 4:18pm
	#1 is true of a pistons, but not so on a turbine or turboprop. Turbines/turboprops burn a lot on the ground running the compressors. So any change to the fuel timers to reflect that should be an option not universal switch

oskrypuch Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 09 Nov 2012 Location: CYFD Status: Offline Points: 3062	Post Options Post Reply Quote oskrypuch Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Nov 2014 at 4:24pm
	Well, sure, I have no objection to both being available. But, it is not so much the amount of fuel burn. Sure turbines will burn more on the ground, but that still dwarfs their hourly burnout in the air. The issue is the variability of the ground phase. You might be at an uncontrolled airport in VMC, and zip out, or you might be stuck behind a long line of jets at KMDW. It is the variability of the ground phase that fouls things up, it takes away from the predictive value of the burnout during the first 30 min of flight, as a crosscheck on operations. * Orest Edited by oskrypuch - 19 Nov 2014 at 4:25pm