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Is the SkyTrax200 configurable to allow filtering of distant aircraft?  I didn't see it in the install manual and as of now, the IFD software has no filter settings (that I can find).

Secondly...  I understand that IFD 10.3 will display WIFI weather and traffic (Stratux, Stratus, etc.).  Would this be direct competition to the SkyTrax200 and if not, can you talk about any advantages the SkyTrax would have over a WIFI source?

And lastly, I have RS232 lines from my IFD540 going to a location that I would want to mount the SkyTrax200.  What would I be missing by connecting the SkyTrax200 to my IFD540 with RS232 only, instead of RS232 and ARINC 429?  I'd rather not run additional lines if RS232 will give me everything.
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Just traded-in my MLB100/SkyTrax100 for the SkyTrax200 per the offer above. The trade-in process and was very straight forward. The physical process of swapping UAT's to SkyTrax200 was very smooth as the MLB100 and SkyTrax200 share the same mounting footprint and pinning. Adjusting the RS-232 settings, AXP340 settings, as well as configuring the the SkyTrax200 port and ADSB settings was also a very quick process.  
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It's already available.
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No, the Skytrax 100B upgrade to the 200…. Is that available yet?

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Originally posted by scotthess scotthess wrote:

Thank you Steve. My dealer says the update is not yet available. Do you know when it will be?

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You mean 4.2.2?  It's already available.
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Thank you Steve. My dealer says the update is not yet available. Do you know when it will be?

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Originally posted by scotthess scotthess wrote:

Does the compatibility with the EX-500 require 4.2.2 software? Thank you.
Yes, 4.2.2 is required.
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Does the compatibility with the EX-500 require 4.2.2 software? Thank you.
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I could be wrong, but I believe they are available now. My shop ordered one in advance to keep on the shelf. 
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Originally posted by teeth6 teeth6 wrote:

Interesting but that’s not the way it was explained to me after speaking with Avidyne and my shop. I’m told the shop can order the 200 and perform the removal and installation  once the new unit is available. The shop would then send in the exchange unit. 

I'll ask some more questions next week; your described exchange method seems like much less of a hassle for the end user. BTW - have you heard when or if the new units are going to be available?
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Interesting but that’s not the way it was explained to me after speaking with Avidyne and my shop. I’m told the shop can order the 200 and perform the removal and installation  once the new unit is available. The shop would then send in the exchange unit. 
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Originally posted by teeth6 teeth6 wrote:

Apparently, the Skytrax 100 is not upgradable to the dual band Skytrax 200…..only the 100B is.  The cost to trade the 100 for the 200 is $1250 plus labor. I’ve been wanting the dual band for quite awhile but wonder if this is the most cost effective way to go at $1250 plus. Any comments would be appreciated on any other options. My ADS-B out is the Avidyne APX transponder. 

FYI - I've been asking questions about this as well. Avidyne sales tells me that the MLB100/SkyTrax100 trade-in first involves an Avidyne Dealer removing the original MLB100/SkyTrax100 and sending it in as an RMA exchange. Once Avidyne receives the old UAT, then they will ship the SkyTrax200 back to the Avidyne Dealer for install. In other words, this very simple box swap and settings update is going to take days to complete as well as possibly two trips to the Avidyne Dealer. 

I was hoping Avidyne would have a quicker process where one could buy the SkyTrax200 for the $2500 list price and then Avidyne would refund the $1250 upon receipt of the old MLB100/SkyTrax100. That way the trade-in could be done in one short dealer visit.


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Apparently, the Skytrax 100 is not upgradable to the dual band Skytrax 200…..only the 100B is.  The cost to trade the 100 for the 200 is $1250 plus labor. I’ve been wanting the dual band for quite awhile but wonder if this is the most cost effective way to go at $1250 plus. Any comments would be appreciated on any other options. My ADS-B out is the Avidyne APX transponder. 
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@AviSteve - would it be possible to get the pinout map for the new 200?  Is there a datasheet somewhere that we can get access to? 

I believe that my installer did in fact route the maintenance serial port off of 4/22 and 26(gnd)... assuming that 26 is unchanged... does Avidyne have any recommendations on were 4 and 22 should be routed to?  Thanks!!

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Originally posted by HenryM HenryM wrote:

Is the SkyTrax200 pin compatible with an MLB-100? Is there a lot of installation time involved to replace an original MLB-100 with one of these?
Straight from the designer...

The SkyTrax 200 was designed to be pin compatible with the MLB100; however, there are a few minor differences in order to provide greater flexibility for possible future features.  The majority of installations consist of swapping the MLB100 for a SkyTrax 200 and then configuring the SkyTrax 200, but we recommend that they at least evaluate the connections.  The issues that they should look for are:

  1. The signal ground that was on pin 26 is now reserved for future use and should not be used as a signal ground.  If they are using this pin as a signal ground, then they should move that connection to one of the other signal grounds.
  2. There is no longer an RS-422 interface.
  3. Pins 2 and 21 are now reserved and are not used for an ARINC-743A time mark input.
  4. Pin 3 is now reserved and is not used for a +5V DC output.
  5. Pins 4 and 22 are no longer used for an RS-232 maintenance port, those pins now provide a second ARINC-429 input channel.  Any of the other RS-232 interfaces can be used for accessing the maintenance/installation interface.
  6. Pin 11 is now reserved and is no longer used for the 1 PPS function.
  7. Pin 35 is now reserved and is no longer used as a suppression output.



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Thank you for the information. I will likely upgrade my MLB100, which I think is still a Navworx unit.
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As I understand it, if the SkyTrax200 comes in the same case as the SkyTrax100B (which is software upgradable to a 200), then the unit's footprint and pinning should be identical to the original MLB100 / SkyTrax100. The settings in the SkyTrax200 and IFD will need to be adjusted as they are different than the the settings for the MLB100 / SkyTrax100. Also, the corresponding ADS-B out transponder settings will need to be adjusted to indicate both UAT and 1090 in.
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Is the SkyTrax200 pin compatible with an MLB-100? Is there a lot of installation time involved to replace an original MLB-100 with one of these?
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Wish I could, but it's a cert thing.
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then in 10.4, pretty please can SkyTrax owners have the audible traffic callout function formerly provided by the IFD back?
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SkyTrax200 does not generate aural alerts.
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Does the SkyTrax 200, paired with an IFD, have aural alerts?
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Copied from the Avidyne Facebook group. All I know is what this says, nothing more.

AVIDYNE ANNOUNCES CERTIFICATION OF SKYTRAX200 DUAL-BAND ADS-B IN RECEIVER
Avidyne SkyTrax200™ provides dual-band ADS-B Traffic and FIS-B Weather for Avidyne Displays; AML-STC provides approval for installation of the SkyTrax200 in over 600 models of certified aircraft.

MELBOURNE, FL. – June 22, 2021-– Avidyne Corporation, a leading provider of integrated avionics systems, displays, and safety systems for general aviation and business aircraft, announced the receipt of Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Supplemental Type Certificate (STC) approval for the new SkyTrax200 Dual-Band ADS-B In receiver.

“Avidyne continues to develop ADS-B products for new and existing customers and the SkyTrax200 adds direct reception of 1090MHz targets which provides improved performance in US airspace compared with single-band systems relying on ADS-R, plus it gives aircraft owners around the world the ability to see nearby aircraft broadcasting 1090 ADS-B Out,” said John Talmadge, Avidyne’s Vice President of Worldwide Sales. “The vast majority of ADS-B Out equipped aircraft are using 1090MHz. And with our SkyTrax200 upgrade program, we are making it easy for our existing single-band Avidyne customers to upgrade to SkyTrax200 dual-band capability.”

The Avidyne SkyTrax200 includes dual-band (1090MHz and 978 MHz) ADS-B receivers that provide direct line-of-sight reception of ADS-B Traffic targets for use in airspace in the U.S. and around the globe. SkyTrax200 is capable of receiving Flight Information System Broadcast (FIS-B) weather via 978MHz in US airspace where the FIS-B is available. The SkyTrax200 is also capable of receiving the traffic output from an active traffic system such as the Avidyne SkyTrax600, TAS600 series, Ryan 9900BX, or a legacy SkywatchTM system, combining it with the ADS-B traffic directly received over either band and TIS-B traffic received from ATC, and presenting an integrated view of dual band ADS-B, TAS, and ATC radar traffic.

The Avidyne SkyTrax200’s weather and dual-band traffic can be displayed on Avidyne’s IFD-Series GPS/NAV/COMs and also on Avidyne EX500, EX600 or EX5000 Multi-Function displays (MFD) and Entegra R9 integrated flight deck systems. The SkyTrax200 supports standard Capstone and Arinc 429/735 interfaces and can also be interfaced with a wide variety of standards-based traffic displays. SkyTrax200 has been approved under new ASTM International standards process.

Pricing & Availability
The retail price of the SkyTrax200 is $2,499 and it is available now.

Existing Avidyne customers with the single-band Avidyne SkyTrax100B receiver can have their units upgraded to SkyTrax200 dual-band capability. For a limited time, this software upgrade is being made available free of charge. Dealer labor to perform the upgrade is not included.
In addition, Avidyne customers with any other single-band ADS-B In receiver previously purchased through Avidyne can upgrade to the dual-band SkyTrax200 for $1,250 with trade-in of their single-band unit. Dealer labor is not included.

Contact your Authorized Avidyne Dealer or pilotsupport@avidyne.com for more information.
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