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    Posted: 16 Feb 2016 at 1:52am
Flew with 10.1.1 in second aircraft today. Took quite a while to acquire GPS Sats. Lost display of restricted areas though. I checked and SUA display was selected. Going to have to troubleshoot on the ground when im not flying.

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Loaded 10.1.1.0 in my other aircraft today. Went much smoother than when I tried to update on the bench. Only snag I had occurred while executing the conformity check. It hung up almost immediately on what looked like some kind of com file. I noticed that sometimes the unit shuts off the com when in maintenance mode. I rebooted into flight mode and activated the com. Monitored awos and went back into maintenance mode. This time it was in maint mode and i could hear the awos. Ran the conformity checker and it went fine. Also paired the BT KB at the same time. All good
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Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

Originally posted by DavidBunin DavidBunin wrote:

Steve,

As best I can tell, the ability to have a single data type output from duplicate (multiple) RS232 ports was not an improvement that made it into 10.1.1.0.  Is that one of the changes coming in 10.2?

David Bunin



Yes.

Glad I saw this post - this is one of the things that was keeping my 540/440 from working with my MLB100.  After disabling a second RS232 port, the traffic and weather are now working and everything is reading out and working together.

However, the disabled port was feeding my Argus and had to be shut down to get everything functioning.  Glad that this will be back in 10.2.  Thank you.

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Just out there Friday for AMX240-->PMA450 exchange (very happy camper), they say they have re-downloaded the UAT PC software.  My resolution was performed at another shop though.

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Originally posted by n7ifr n7ifr wrote:

Best guess is appeared to be Corrupt PC UAT Software (at first installer) for MLB configuration..


Has that original shop fixed their computer now?

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I'd like to suggest an update to the service bulletin for 10.1.1.0 marked as ** CRITICAL **.

When my update was performed, I saved my user settings prior to the update, then restored my user settings after the update.  After contacting tech support, there is a known (or at least previously experienced) issue that when you do this, it messes up some of the 10.1.1.0 settings requiring the unit to be shipped back to be corrected.  The issue that raised this is that I do not have the user option to enable bluetooth or wifi so I can't try the neat keyboard that recently arrived.

The update to the user service bulletin should say up front and in the back not to restore user settings from a previous software build.

Hopefully this issue is resolved in the future since I thought this was one of the main reasons for this save/restore capability.
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Got a new dealer?
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3.  MLB100 no longer sends ADSB Traffic to 540's with v10.1.1.  Apparently, the 540 GPS signal is no longer received by MLB, and hence does not send out ADSB traffic to 540.  

Resolution - Went to a alternate Avidyne Dealer (KPRC) who resolved my       540<-->MLB interface issues:  

Best guess is appeared to be Corrupt PC UAT Software (at first installer) for MLB configuration...

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Updated both 540s to 10.1.1.   I can confirm that they work much better with the superawos on the field.  I could reliably get the weather with three clicks and the radio check with four.  I used to be able too, but only intermittently.  

No issues upgrading. About 30 minutes each.  

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Originally posted by DavidBunin DavidBunin wrote:

Steve,

As best I can tell, the ability to have a single data type output from duplicate (multiple) RS232 ports was not an improvement that made it into 10.1.1.0.  Is that one of the changes coming in 10.2?

David Bunin



Yes.
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Steve,

As best I can tell, the ability to have a single data type output from duplicate (multiple) RS232 ports was not an improvement that made it into 10.1.1.0.  Is that one of the changes coming in 10.2?

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David,
My 540 #1 is supplying GPS to the MLB.  After confirming OK wiring, installer flipped the 540's (and set port configs accordingly), no solution.  Then used another 540 still on v10.1.0 which did work.

So, conversely David, what should be the #1-540 proper configuration for RS232 port config?

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Quote pulled my dual 540's (with 10.1.1) and substituted another unit with 10.1.0 which worked

What was the RS232 port configuration in the memory of the unit that was removed (didn't work)?

What was the RS232 port configuration in the memory of the unit that was installed (the one that worked)?

Two units were removed, and just one was installed?  Which unit (#1 or #2) is supplying the GPS data to the MLB?  Which data formats are being used?

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Steve,
Appreciate your attention to this.  Installer in TRM spent hours unsuccessfully trouble shooting this glitch, including phone Avidyne Tech Support.  
To me, it looked like on the UAT program (on PC), the GPS signal from 540 populated for about 3-5 seconds, then "failed", indicating no link to 540's.  After confirming wiring OK, pulled my dual 540's (with 10.1.1) and substituted another unit with 10.1.0 which worked.

Go figure.

Also, on the Audio - 540 interface, I recall the intention and manual describing an "auto-mute" function on Comm Standby Monitor, thus giving the active Comm channel priority over Standby channel...

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Originally posted by n7ifr n7ifr wrote:

OK, v10.1.1 installed, and most issues fixed... BUT, not so fast!!

Comm Standby Monitor, #1 and #2 now work without attenuated volume.
1.  However, Auto Mute Function is just not addressed - absent!  So as temporary fix, I adjusted volume down a bit on Monitored Comm freq.




There is no auto mute function in the IFDs by design.

Originally posted by n7ifr n7ifr wrote:

OK, v10.1.1 installed, and most issues fixed... BUT, not so fast!!


2.  Only the first frequency block below Active can be selected to be "Monitored" - no other Comm's below this first block can be monitored without first flip-flopping to 1st position.



That behavior is per design and is described by the "Monitor Standby Com" note box in the middle of page 1-17 of the pilot guide.

Originally posted by n7ifr n7ifr wrote:

OK, v10.1.1 installed, and most issues fixed... BUT, not so fast!!


3.  MLB100 no longer sends ADSB Traffic to 540's with v10.1.1.  Apparently, the 540 GPS signal is no longer received by MLB, and hence does not send out ADSB traffic to 540.  

At installer today, successfully got GPS signal received on MLB unit with a not yet-upgraded v10.1.0 box, but software glitch on upgraded box (tried both 540's with v10.1.1) blocks the GPS feedback link from 540' to MLB.  Avidyne Tech is aware (Cris & TJ) !!

Time for another immediate software fix!

Tom Wolf



There is NO systemic design flaw between 10.1.1.0 and MLB100.   The two work just fine together.  It was tested extensively and there are dozens of installs with that combo in the field now that are also working just fine.  Avidyne tech support will work with the shop when they open up this morning to determine what the installation issue is that you are experiencing.  We are very interested in getting you all taken care of pronto.
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Originally posted by n7ifr n7ifr wrote:


3.  MLB100 no longer sends ADSB Traffic to 540's with v10.1.1.  Apparently, the 540 GPS signal is no longer received by MLB, and hence does not send out ADSB traffic to 540.  



MLB100 traffic works and works very well on both my IFD540s after the upgrade.
MLB100 is at 4.0.9 and the IFDs are at 10.1.1.0.

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Originally posted by n7ifr n7ifr wrote:

2.  Only the first frequency block below Active can be selected to be "Monitored" - no other Comm's below this first block can be monitored without first flip-flopping to 1st position.

I believe Avidyne has previously stated that this is the intended behavior.  In this older post, Steve (AviJake) says, "So, standby comm monitor will always be associated with the first standby slot and the flip/flop function will always be associated with the standby slot that has the blue wrap-around cursor.  The current version of the pilot guide describes those behaviors."


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OK, v10.1.1 installed, and most issues fixed... BUT, not so fast!!

Comm Standby Monitor, #1 and #2 now work without attenuated volume.
1.  However, Auto Mute Function is just not addressed - absent!  So as temporary fix, I adjusted volume down a bit on Monitored Comm freq.

2.  Only the first frequency block below Active can be selected to be "Monitored" - no other Comm's below this first block can be monitored without first flip-flopping to 1st position.

3.  MLB100 no longer sends ADSB Traffic to 540's with v10.1.1.  Apparently, the 540 GPS signal is no longer received by MLB, and hence does not send out ADSB traffic to 540.  

At installer today, successfully got GPS signal received on MLB unit with a not yet-upgraded v10.1.0 box, but software glitch on upgraded box (tried both 540's with v10.1.1) blocks the GPS feedback link from 540' to MLB.  Avidyne Tech is aware (Cris & TJ) !!

Time for another immediate software fix!

Tom Wolf



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No, there is no chance.  We had to limit it to the Avidyne supplied keyboard for cert reasons.
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Did my 10.1.1.0 tonight. Took about 30 minutes. I did, however, watch the video Sunday afternoon so I knew what to expect. I experienced the continuity error that was addressed in the video & corrected it as instructed.  Cool to see it who on wifi.

I've got a bluetooth keyboard from another device. Any chance it will connect?

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Ha, just updated the IFD540 to the 10.1.1 firmware. All went smooth, just under 30 min.

Way cool, LIO_BT appeared as available on a BlueTooth scan, and LIO_WIFI was up on WiFi.

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Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

Originally posted by rolfe_tessem rolfe_tessem wrote:

Just for clarification, I can do this under the supervision of my A&P and he can sign it off, as long as I'm willing to forgo the 1 hour reimbursement?

Thanks,

Rolfe



Yes, anyone with log book sign off authority can sign off  this update.


Thanks for that clarification Steve -- I've looked at the service bulletin and am confident that we can handle this locally.

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Thanks for the update Steve, my 10.1.1 goes in tonight.

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To update the initial posted list of Release 10.1.1.0 content, here's what it has as released:



1. Update Nearest Airport to Destination When Filter Changes - When the filter used to define displayed/usable airports changes, the criteria used to update the nearest airport to destination list will now be updated too. (Enhancement)

2. Add Mx Mode Capability to Test Transponder Discretes - Adds a capability in Maintenance Mode for installers to validate and/or troubleshoot transponder installations (e.g. test Air vs Ground transition) (Enhancement)

3. Add Port Monitor Capability to Maintenance Mode - Adds a capability in Maintenance Mode for installers to validate the data streams in/out of each com port. (Enhancement)

4. Persist the User Option selection for FLTA On/Off - Persists the User Option selection for FLTA On/Off across power cycles. (Enhancement)

5. LSK Label Change - The LSK soft title on the AUX page, Status tab changes from “Select” to “Status” for additional clarity. (Enhancement)

6. Increase Refresh Rate of NRST Page - Improve the displayed bearing and distance fields of each Nearest row to be updated in real time (up from the present 15 sec refresh rate). (Enhancement)

7. Improve AviCurve Dimming Curve - Alters the impact of the slope parameter to allow the maximum slope value to permit 100% brightness setting instead of the previously capped 21% value after significant feedback from installers and end users. (Enhancement)

8. Removes Nuisance FLTA Off and FLTA Inhibited CAS Messages - Previous to this change, when an external TAWS system was present, the system would display a permanent “FLTA Off” or “FLTA Inhibited” CAS message depending on aircraft position. While technically true, this was considered a great nuisance to installers and customers who were equipped with external TAWS to include a constantly lit “MSG” lamp. This change suppresses those CAS messages when external TAWS is present. (Enhancement)

9. Makes More CAS Messages Delete on Ack - Changes several CAS messages behavior to be delete on acknowledgement in an effort to reduce persistence of nuisance “MSG” lamp. (Enhancement)

10. Restore Aural Alerts Volume Adjust Capability in TAWS Aircraft - Restores the inadvertent removal of the aural alert volume adjust capability and bar when an external TAWS system is present. Previously, by selecting the external TAWS system in Mx Mode, the aural alert volume adjust capability was removed which didn’t permit the non-TAWS aural alert volumes to be adjusted. (Bug Fix)

11. Fix Info Map Display - Fixes a defect where the lower half of the map thumbnail on the INFO tab of the FMS page was missing when the main map was in heading up mode. (Bug Fix)

12. Improve Pilot Controlled Lighting/Super AWOS Triggering - Improves the quick on/off cycling of the VHF transmit function to permit the 5 click in 5 seconds and 7 click in 5 second triggers for PCL and Super AWOS. Previously, quick mic clicks could be missed due to slow transmit or clipping behaviors. (Bug Fix)

13. Fix IFD440 Boot Behavior - Corrects a defect where an IFD440 could occasionally boot as an IFD540 which provided offset display pages. (Bug Fix)

14. Improve OBS Deadband Behavior - Improves precision and responsiveness of pilot controlled OBS course setting. The previous implementation had some lag in responsiveness such that it became difficult to control the OBS course setting without overshooting the desired course setting or it required excessively slow and methodical course setting pilot techniques. (Enhancement)

15. Fixed Clipped and/or Distorted Charts - Corrects a defect in which some Approach and Procedure charts were clipped or visually distorted. (Bug Fix)

16.  Improvements to OBS Control - changes to help in OBS control behavior (Enhancement)

17. Improves Map Popup Depiction of Airspace Altitudes - Improves the resolution of the map popup information box depiction of airspace in dense and overlapping airspace regions. (Enhancement)

18. Corrects Jump in Display Field of View - Corrects a defect that resulted in a jump in the field of view of the User Options page when using a specific combination of touch and knob inputs. Previously, if an edit were made to a User Option parameter using the specific combination of touch and knob input, the change would take hold but the page would jump to display a different section of the page. (Bug Fix)

19. Transmit Pressure Altitude - Adds the Pressure Altitude 429 label to the output stream of the IFD to facilitate integration with ADS-B In receivers. (Enhancement)

20. Correct Standby Com Monitor Volume Attenuation Defect - Corrects a defect that would attenuate the volume of the active and standby com frequency channels to 50% when the Standby Com Monitor function of the audio panel was selected for use. (Bug Fix)

21. Correct Conflict in FIS-B Regional vs CONUS Radar Depiction - Corrects a defect that would incorrectly depict weather radar tiles when a combination of range changes and product display selections were made. (Bug Fix)

22. Enable Display of OBS Legs on EX5000, EX600, EX500 Displays - Adds OBS leg information to the output stream of the IFD to facilitate display of that active OBS leg on the Avidyne legacy MFDs. (Enhancement)

23. Stored Route Retrieval Recalls Proper Airway - Corrects a defect where a route containing overlapping airways gets stored and then later retrieved for use but would use the “other” overlapping airway which was a source of confusion to the user. (Bug Fix)

24. Correct Non-Responsive Frequency Swap Command - Corrects a defect where a specific set of touches and bezel control inputs would make the frequency swap function lock out. (Bug Fix)

25. Enhance GPS Pulse Per Second (PPS) Signal Precision - Enhances the precision of the periodicity of the PPS signal to be ARINC compliant to facilitate future integration with ADS-B transceivers. (Enhancement)
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Originally posted by DavidBunin DavidBunin wrote:

Originally posted by comancheguy comancheguy wrote:

Where do you download it FROM? 

From the dealer's side of the Avidyne web site (link below). The link says "dealers" but I think anybody can access it. Scroll down to the bottom three files.  One is the service bulletin with the instructions.  Put the other two on a USB stick and head for the airplane.

http://dealers.avidyne.com/downloads/ifd540-release-10-1.asp

I did mine today, and the loading took less than half an hour.  Make sure you have a power supply that can sustain the avionics for at least 45 minutes before you start.

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I did my IFD540 and IFD440 yesterday with no problems - instructions are very straight forward.
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Originally posted by rolfe_tessem rolfe_tessem wrote:

Just for clarification, I can do this under the supervision of my A&P and he can sign it off, as long as I'm willing to forgo the 1 hour reimbursement?

Thanks,

Rolfe



Yes, anyone with log book sign off authority can sign off  this update.
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Thanks for the clarification, Simpson.  Since my original installing shop has broken up with me, I'll have a new shop do the 10.1.1.0 upgrade.  
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Just for clarification, I can do this under the supervision of my A&P and he can sign it off, as long as I'm willing to forgo the 1 hour reimbursement?

Thanks,

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If the update is done by an Avidyne Authorized Dealer, we will cover 1 hour of labor for the update. All they need to do is fill out an RMA.
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Thanks!  I knew that DL'd the 10.1 update from someplace, then had my installer do it, since it was "involved".   I didn't see the link on the side this time.  
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Originally posted by comancheguy comancheguy wrote:

Where do you download it FROM? 

From the dealer's side of the Avidyne web site (link below). The link says "dealers" but I think anybody can access it. Scroll down to the bottom three files.  One is the service bulletin with the instructions.  Put the other two on a USB stick and head for the airplane.

http://dealers.avidyne.com/downloads/ifd540-release-10-1.asp

I did mine today, and the loading took less than half an hour.  Make sure you have a power supply that can sustain the avionics for at least 45 minutes before you start.

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Originally posted by teeth6 teeth6 wrote:

If the install is done and signed off by an A&P, they would not be paid for their time.  This is how the last software changed worked.

I'm not sure how many fall into this category, but it's cheaper for me to pay my A&P than it is for me to fly to the avionics shop even if their labor is free.  It's also much more convenient for me personally since it's ~1 hour for me to head to the airport and get my A&P to load it rather than ~5 hours for the trip to the avionics shop and back.

My A&P also works weekends so I don't have to take time off of work, but my avionics shop does not.
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Thank you!  Appreciate all the effort in getting this approved.
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Cobra is correct.  The update is free to us users.  I would assume that Avidyne compensates the shops for their time to install it (as long as they are an Avidyne dealer) much like a warranty job done by a shop that is covered.  If the install is done and signed off by an A&P, they would not be paid for their time.  This is how the last software changed worked.
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Where do you download it FROM? 

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Originally posted by ddgates ddgates wrote:

In the past I've downloaded my updates and installed with my A&P signing off.

Can we do this again, please?

That's my plan as well.
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In the past I've downloaded my updates and installed with my A&P signing off.

Can we do this again, please?
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My question was addressed specifically to Simpson, but I realize this is a public forum.

Simpson's post said "it is available at no charge".  He did not specifically state "no charge to the end user".  That could mean that Avidyne won't charge for it, but the dealer might charge for the time to plug the USB stick in, monitor the update process, and then verify that everything is still okay afterwards.  

My question asked whether or not Avidyne would be compensating dealers for their time spent upgrading the boxes, and if not, was there a way that the user could just do it themselves.

Hopefully you're right, Cobra.  I'm sure Simpson will respond in due course and we'll know for sure.
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Originally posted by pburger pburger wrote:

Simpson,

With the 10.1 upgrade, Avidyne compensated the dealers so it was no cost to the end user.  Will this be the same?  If not, is there any way a user can do this update? Please advise.


He already did, in the post right above yours:

Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

The update is field loadable, USB upload, so the unit doesn't need to come to us. Additionally it is available at no charge.


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Simpson,

With the 10.1 upgrade, Avidyne compensated the dealers so it was no cost to the end user.  Will this be the same?  If not, is there any way a user can do this update? Please advise.

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Originally posted by tony tony wrote:

Simpson, The is great news!  How big an effort is the update?  Is it just done via the front panel via a USB or does the unit have to come out of the airplane?  Is the update good for both the 540 and 440?

The update is field loadable, USB upload, so the unit doesn't need to come to us. Additionally it is available at no charge.

All the data is available to Avidyne Dealers and is available via our Dealer portal. The update does add some enhancements to both the IFD540 & IFD440.
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Simpson, The is great news!  How big an effort is the update?  Is it just done via the front panel via a USB or does the unit have to come out of the airplane?  Is the update good for both the 540 and 440?

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Hi Simpson-

Great news! The obvious next question is whether this is something that can be installed by an A&P or whether we will need to take the box to the dealer for the upgrade.

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!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the good news!

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R10.1.1 has been approved and is released to dealers as of this morning.
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I just got an email from my Avidyne dealer/installer.

He says that he just got back from an Avidyne "dealer council" and that the 10.1.1 release is available. I should come on in to get it installed.

What's up with that? Does he know something that we don't? Or is he a little eager?

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FAA has their priorities, but to be fair, they've been at it longer...



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we are getting into the use or loose period.  I doubt you will see this release in 2015.  But I'm been surprised before....
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Originally posted by n7ifr n7ifr wrote:

would like to combine squawk lists for efficiency and time our return visits to our Avidyne shops with ever increasing lists of fixes.

You're doing it wrong, Tom.  The squawk list is supposed to decrease over time.  :)

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I've been involved in a couple of certification projects over the years. After the first week of December, it's real hard to get any kind of feel for whether or not the FAA will grant approval before their holiday break. By the 20th you know they won't.

In other words, either the FAA approval will come in the next few days, or it won't come before next year.  And if it doesn't come before next year, it always takes them most of January to "catch up" from being out of the office.  (Somehow the thing they were "days away" from finishing before they left takes weeks to get done once they're back.)

Meanwhile, the applicant (i.e. Avidyne) is essentially helpless at this stage.  You can only ask your FAA contact "are we there yet" so many times before they threaten to pull this car over and spank somebody.

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Jake is currently out of the office.

I think we will have an update in the next couple days.
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