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AviSimpson ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Location: Lincoln, MA Status: Offline Points: 765 |
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More exciting news from the FAA today. We have received STC for our Bluetooth MK10 keyboard. The MK10 Bluetooth Keyboard allows pilots to wirelessly control their panel-mounted IFD440 or IFD540 system. Activation of Bluetooth functionality requires IFD440/IFD540 software Release 10.1.1. Initially,
the MK10 will allow remote entry of waypoints and flightplans, plus map range
changing, and alpha-numeric data entry. An upcoming release (R10.2)
will fully enable all MK10 functions including page and tab selection, Direct
TO, and others.”
The MK10 will have a retail value of $299. For a limitied time, all customers who register or who have registered on www.MyAvidyne.com will receive the MK10 at no cost. If you own an IFD540 or IFD440 and have not registered at MyAvidyne.com, please do so now so you don't get left out when we begin sending MK10 keyboards.
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Simpson Bennett
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Dlesh123 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 13 Mar 2015 Location: Fountain Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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Since you mentioned it, software v 10.2. Instead of asking when you expect its approval, can you say when it was sent to the FAA? And if there has been any feedback during its review.
Just for rough planning purposes, it is suppose to do all the things we planned on when we bought the boxes last year, so instead of more multiple trips at 200 dollars per to the installer, like to make one trip to get 10.1.1, 10.2. ,Mlb 100 SB done at the same time. Along with the keyboard, can we expect the new version of the paper manual at the same time, or will that come with 10.2? Also, somewhere in there was a free t-shirt for some, i think for registereing. Thanks Doug |
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twalterhome3 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 06 Sep 2012 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 43 |
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what do I have to do to get my free keyboard?
I am already registered on MyAvidyne.com |
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teeth6 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 10 Mar 2014 Status: Offline Points: 741 |
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I believe Avi said that anyone registered on myavidyne will automatically receive the keyboard once they start shipping
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DavidBunin ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 May 2015 Location: Rockwall, TX Status: Offline Points: 742 |
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There is always a "next software" version coming. That is the nature of software. Each of us has to decide if the current software provides enough benefits to justify the cost of getting it installed. Naturally, everybody has a unique cost associated with upgrading, so the tipping point is different for each of us. In other words, I would recommend against ever deciding to do an upgrade (or not) based on what you think may happen in the near (or distant) future. Too much of that kind of thinking would prevent most of us from ever doing an avionics upgrade in the first place. David Bunin |
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Bad1996 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 11 Feb 2015 Location: Dalton, Ga. Status: Offline Points: 103 |
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Of course I'll take one if its free but this entire time I have wondered "why" I mean in most airplanes it's a short arms length away to reach the IFD. Is there a reason that I'm missing ?
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pburger ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Dec 2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 406 |
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Yep. I have the same question as Bad. But I'm keeping an open mind. I might just love the heck out of that little keyboard. Time will tell.
The other thing that concerns me is the size of the keyboard. From the picture in the e-mail, it looks like it's not going to be much better than typing on a cellphone, and I hate that!. We'll see how it goes...
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safari ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 28 Apr 2014 Location: Sedona Status: Offline Points: 55 |
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The key board works great for inputting user way points while on the ground.
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Gring ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 2011 Location: Kingston, NY Status: Offline Points: 739 |
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The keyboard is almost exactly the size of an iPhone 4S but the keys are so much better than typing on a flat screen. I give the keyboard to my 8yr old and he can bang a flight plan into the FMS with no issues.
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ronl ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 08 Apr 2015 Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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Yeah. Forget the tiny keyboard. I want an APP!
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teeth6 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 10 Mar 2014 Status: Offline Points: 741 |
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The keyboard is quite easy to use although many of its functions are not unleased yet. Mine fits perfectly right on my yoke and is easy to access. Even though the keys are small, it is not a problem inputting data even in bumps as I rest my hand next to it on the yoke.
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brou0040 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 13 Dec 2012 Location: KIYK Status: Offline Points: 722 |
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Do you mind capturing and posting a picture next time you go flying? I'm trying to visualize how you'd use it on a yoke. I'm thinking I'm going to move things around on my center console/armrest and put it there.
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teeth6 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 10 Mar 2014 Status: Offline Points: 741 |
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I'll take a photo later today or tomorrow
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DavidBunin ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 May 2015 Location: Rockwall, TX Status: Offline Points: 742 |
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I have no idea how much or how little I will use a keyboard, but I think it's a novel feature, and I want to find out. I avoid touching the screen any more than I need to, so a keyboard would save me from a bit of knob twisting when entering flight plans. If I touch the screen all the time, I end up needing to clean it all the time. David Bunin |
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ddgates ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Deer Valley Status: Offline Points: 1100 |
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David:
Do you clean your screen with the "Clean and Sparkle" product? |
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teeth6 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 10 Mar 2014 Status: Offline Points: 741 |
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Here is a photo I took today that shows the keyboard on my yoke. Really very easy to use and I actually find it easier to enter a flightplan using that than the knobs and buttons. |
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teeth6 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 10 Mar 2014 Status: Offline Points: 741 |
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https://youtu.be/aYlit4sm9lw
This is a short video that I did that demonstrates the ease of entering a flight plan with the keyboard If you have dual 540s/440s, it appears you would pair the keyboard with only one of the boxes as the information will sync to the other box anyway. I'd like to hear if anyone with dual boxes has any other suggestions for ease of use. |
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brou0040 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 13 Dec 2012 Location: KIYK Status: Offline Points: 722 |
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Very nice, thanks for sharing.
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oskrypuch ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 2012 Location: CYFD Status: Offline Points: 3062 |
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Thanks for posting! Now, I can't wait.
* Orest |
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Dlesh123 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 13 Mar 2015 Location: Fountain Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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David, yes the next software version is always on the horizon, but in July it was 10.2 that was going to provide the functionality that we were all expecting from our original purchases, that now is being dribbled out in pieces. More of what 10.2 was going to provide is yet to come. I am not looking for much of anything past 10.2. ( unless flaws are found)
There is certainly more to the story for the frustration level, but not appropriate for discussion here. |
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sephi ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Mar 2015 Location: N79 Status: Offline Points: 11 |
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Oh yes, How will the keyboard work if you have two IFD's installed? Do you get two keyboards?
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teeth6 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 10 Mar 2014 Status: Offline Points: 741 |
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I believe you will get 2 but I don't see how you can use 2 if your 2 boxes are setup to sync with each other.
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DavidBunin ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 May 2015 Location: Rockwall, TX Status: Offline Points: 742 |
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I put rubbing alcohol on a microfiber cloth and clean it with that. (I got the microfiber cloth from the place where I get my eyeglasses.) The cleaning process seems fine. I just don't like fingerprints on screens, and I guess I have more natural skin oils than some pilots. Also, since the winter season is upon us, I have discovered that my favorite gloves are not touch screen compatible. David |
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Bad1996 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 11 Feb 2015 Location: Dalton, Ga. Status: Offline Points: 103 |
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Nice video. A brush up withthe factory video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7p8d6EpdGpI
Just watching that, I was reminded of a few things I had forgotten. Like entering a frequency no need to put the "1" in at the beginning. |
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ptlevine ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 06 Aug 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 53 |
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I recognize that instrument panel. You are flying a Trinidad right? I used to fly a Tobago many moons ago. Great cabin in those Socata's!
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cbenedikt ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 2015 Location: Suwanee, GA Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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Hi Simpson - When do you expect Avidyne to begin shipping the MK10 out to those registered on MyAvidyne.com? Looking forward to giving the keyboard a try. Craig |
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AviSimpson ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Location: Lincoln, MA Status: Offline Points: 765 |
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Shipping of the MK10 should begin in the next week or so.
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Simpson Bennett
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DavidBunin ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 May 2015 Location: Rockwall, TX Status: Offline Points: 742 |
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I was going to ask if that was a Trinidad. I recently saw an Avidyne print advertisement (in AOPA I think) featuring a Trinidad owner. Is that you, "teeth6"? David |
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AviJake ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Location: Lincoln MA Status: Offline Points: 2815 |
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Yes, that's him
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Steve Jacobson
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1964-m20e ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 19 Aug 2013 Location: New Orleans Status: Offline Points: 69 |
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I received my Keyboard yesterday thanks. Just waiting to try it in the plane once I get my 540 installed. Hopefully the shop will start soon.
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chflyer ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2013 Location: LSZK Status: Offline Points: 1048 |
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How long should us registered folks wait for ours to arrive before starting to query when it's coming?
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1964-m20e ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 19 Aug 2013 Location: New Orleans Status: Offline Points: 69 |
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I registered about 3 or 4 weeks ago. +/-
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AviSimpson ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Location: Lincoln, MA Status: Offline Points: 765 |
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If you don't receive a keyboard by the end of January, then let me know and we will research it. We should have them to you well before then.
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Kentwkalb ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Dec 2015 Location: KFGX Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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Received my keyboard today. Solidly constructed, good weight. Looking forward to flying with the newest "addition".
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MarkZ ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Sep 2015 Location: 0TX0 Status: Offline Points: 172 |
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First post... I got mine also. I have yet to fly it yet but am real close.
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DavidBunin ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 May 2015 Location: Rockwall, TX Status: Offline Points: 742 |
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Good to hear it Mark. There was an Avidyne package in my mailbox yesterday too. I am pleased to report that I have received ... my T-shirt. Still waiting for that other thing. David Bunin
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cbenedikt ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 2015 Location: Suwanee, GA Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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T-shirt??? How does one get a T-shirt. I did receive my keyboard and cannot wait to try it out. Craig |
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pburger ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Dec 2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 406 |
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I've got a UPS package from Avidyne scheduled for delivery tomorrow (Friday, Jan 8). I'm pretty sure it's the BT keyboard. We'll see...
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AUXAIR ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jul 2015 Location: KSUA Status: Offline Points: 138 |
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My keyboard just arrived - testing tomorrow!
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ddgates ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Deer Valley Status: Offline Points: 1100 |
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Disappointment alert:
you will be disappointed (right now) at the current software version. Basically only the number keys do anything, so you will think "No big deal". David |
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AviJake ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Location: Lincoln MA Status: Offline Points: 2815 |
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Don't forget all letter keys, the up/down, left/right, CLR, ENTR.
As limiting as that sounds, it's quite capable. Use the up/down and left/right arrows to navigate around as you would using the dual concentric keyboard knob in the lower right corner of the IFD. You can build an entire flight plan is seconds using the keyboard in the current software version. (10.2 enables everything). |
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rolfe_tessem ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Jan 2012 Location: Massachusetts Status: Offline Points: 191 |
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Just got mine today...
Is there any consensus on the best way to mount the keyboard? I'm assuming Velcro... Rolfe |
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ptlevine ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 06 Aug 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 53 |
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Mine just arrived today. I am excited to try it out and appreciative that Avidyne sent this to early adopters without being lobbied.
Quick question, can the keyboard be charged with any usb charger?
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ddgates ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Deer Valley Status: Offline Points: 1100 |
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Most will probably use velcro. I got a thing from Sporty's called the Pilot Pocket. It suction cups to the pilot side window and holds sunglasses, pen, and keyboard. |
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AviJake ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Location: Lincoln MA Status: Offline Points: 2815 |
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Yes, presuming you have the right sized/shaped version for the keyboard size. I've used two different ones that worked just fine and I keep one in the airplane to charge from the IFD if needed. |
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Steve Jacobson
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tony ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Dec 2011 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 466 |
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It came with a charger cable!!!!
Thank you for the Christmas present Santa Steve!!
or should I be thanking Simpson? Thank you to all the Avidyne elves that made this possible.
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Paul ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Aug 2012 Location: Massachusetts Status: Offline Points: 285 |
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I also got a package from Avidyne today. I was hoping it was a t-shirt but it was the keyboard and charging cable. It does look cute. We'll try it when the plane comes out of annual.
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ddgates ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Deer Valley Status: Offline Points: 1100 |
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Got my T-shirt yesterday!
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cbenedikt ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 2015 Location: Suwanee, GA Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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Got my keyboard but still waiting for my T-shirt. |
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rolfe_tessem ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Jan 2012 Location: Massachusetts Status: Offline Points: 191 |
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Got my keyboard but still waiting for my printed manual :-)
Rolfe
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