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victorbravo ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Mar 2015 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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Will the MLB100 ADS-B receiver be compatible with the EX5000C? (I am assuming yes from the press releases).
If yes to the above, will there also be compatibility with existing XM Weather and Skywatch systems or will it be either/or decision? In other words, will operators be able to keep the existing XM and Traffic on the EX500C and add the TIS-B and FIS-B with the MLB100? |
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Risky52 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Aug 2015 Location: California, Md. Status: Offline Points: 14 |
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Any update on when MLB-100 data will be able to be displayed on teh EX500C.
Thanks
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AviSimpson ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Location: Lincoln, MA Status: Offline Points: 765 |
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Still looking to have this available in Q1 2016.
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Simpson Bennett
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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Will EX5000 MFD display ADS-B traffic and weather from Skytrax 100?
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AviSimpson ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Location: Lincoln, MA Status: Offline Points: 765 |
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Yes, we are currently working on the software update require for the EX series MFDs to display ADS-B Weather and Traffic.
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Simpson Bennett
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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What about the Garmin GTX 345? any chance it will show ADS-B traffic and weather on the EX5000 sometime in the future?
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pilotgeek ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2015 Status: Offline Points: 10 |
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When do you anticipate this being available for the 5000?
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jack.ryans ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Jul 2016 Location: Phoenix Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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I Have a Avidyne EX5000 in a 2005 Corvalis and I have just installed a Garmin GTX 345. The installer advised me that Avidyne is currently working on making adjustments to the EX 5000 software to be able to fully talk to the GTX 345 can you advise when this will be available?
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AviJake ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Location: Lincoln MA Status: Offline Points: 2815 |
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Well we just got a GTX345 ourselves to use for integration testing - so far, no success but it's still early.
However, Release 8.2 is focused on the Avidyne supplied ADS-B devices since those are what we know and those are under our control to ensure we have full access to the data protocols and that they won't change. Therefore, I would not count on Rel 8.2 supporting the GTX345 at this time.
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Steve Jacobson
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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When do you expect Rel 8.2? We just installed IFD440 and Skytrax 100, looking forward to having traffic and weather on the EX5000
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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Steve/Simpson, I hope it is not as lengthy as the 10.2 as it is only a software update not associated with new hardware certification. |
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AviSimpson ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Location: Lincoln, MA Status: Offline Points: 765 |
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I won't speculate a timeframe for approval of 8.2. I will share that it is currently in the top priorities of the in-progress projects. We are well into the stage of creating the software for the release, reviewing the requirements and initial testing.
It is a totally different beast than 10.2 was. There are no hardware components to it, however, that doesn't mean it is necessarily easier.
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Simpson Bennett
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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Great, thank you
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Melohn ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Location: PHNL Status: Offline Points: 136 |
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You guys know we want this, but no one wants you to make promises you can't keep on dates, particularly when at least one major milestone is not under your direct control.
If there is anything those of us with EX5000s can do to help test, please don't hesitate to ask. |
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AviSimpson ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Location: Lincoln, MA Status: Offline Points: 765 |
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Thanks for the offer.
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Simpson Bennett
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TurboPA30 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2010 Location: 27XS Status: Offline Points: 138 |
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same here. Willing to play test-bed.
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AviSimpson ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Location: Lincoln, MA Status: Offline Points: 765 |
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We appreciate the offer. At this moment we do not need any external support for the EX update.
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Simpson Bennett
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jknox ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 21 Oct 2011 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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I am not as concerned with the schedule for 8.2, as I am what it *will* accomplish.
Can you tell me, since the message structure is more or less standard, will it likewise support the Garmin 345 and the Lynx NGT9000+ ??? I do not want to have to hot-glue an iPad to my windshield, just to get traffic details (ADS-B) from the 345. <G> tnx, jmk |
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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Steve/Simpson, The whole reason we invested a lot of money last July in the Avidyne IFD 440/AXP340/Skytrax 100 was to get traffic on the EX5000. Avidyne has been promoting the MLB 100 which in now Skytrax 100 for the last couple of years as compatible with the EX5000. Thanks
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AviSimpson ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Location: Lincoln, MA Status: Offline Points: 765 |
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We've just about wrapped up the development and have begun flying and lab testing beta versions. Should those go well and we only need to make a few tweaks, then we should be in the final stretch. Best guestimate is September.
Edited by AviSimpson - 24 May 2017 at 9:30am |
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Simpson Bennett
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ansond ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Austin, Texas Status: Offline Points: 149 |
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Very cool! More than happy to beta-test... :-)
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Melohn ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Location: PHNL Status: Offline Points: 136 |
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Probably too much to ask for, but any idea as to whether this will work with the GTX345 as an ADS-B source?
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AviSimpson ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Location: Lincoln, MA Status: Offline Points: 765 |
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It's possible traffic might work but there will likely be no documented support for the 345.
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Simpson Bennett
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Melohn ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Location: PHNL Status: Offline Points: 136 |
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Thank you for the quick reply. I'm assuming this also means no graphical weather or METARs as well? I bet there is significant market for this integration if it is technically feasible, but it's completely understandable if it isn't; after all these displays are more than a decade old at this point.
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AviSimpson ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Location: Lincoln, MA Status: Offline Points: 765 |
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The protocol to support weather will likely not be supported.
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Simpson Bennett
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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Is September still a possibility?
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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Is it looking promising for September?
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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Is September still a possibility for 8.2?
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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Why does your website list the EX- series MFD compatible with the Skytrax when it is not yet?ADS-B SkyTrax100Avidyne’s ADS-B SkyTrax100 provides affordable ADS-B solutions for general aviation aircraft equipped with Avidyne IFD440/540 systems and EX-Series MFDs*. http://www.avidyne.com/products/978/index.html |
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AviSimpson ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Location: Lincoln, MA Status: Offline Points: 765 |
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The 8.2 Release will not be available, that "guestimate" was ambitious. We are planning for it to be available in Q4 2017. "*Depending on your display configuration. Contact Avidyne for more information, as the list of approved displays is currently being expanded via certification." The above is the 8.2 certification we are working on. |
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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This was the reason we got the Skytrax/MLB 100 July 2016 to get traffic on the MFD, now you are saying Q4 2017, hopefully this guestimate will come true. |
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jblodgett ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2013 Status: Offline Points: 62 |
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With Navworx now toast, will we ever have hope of weather and traffic from Skytrax on the EX series?
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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Hopefully Avidyne will have it done as "promised" in Q4 2017
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DavidBunin ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 May 2015 Location: Rockwall, TX Status: Offline Points: 742 |
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Your hope level should be unchanged, because the product that requires updating was (and is) the EX series display, not the data receiver. David
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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Breaking news, Avidyne press release, 3 years in the making and still waiting. The only update is the name change to Skytrax 100
http://www.avidyne.com/news/press.asp?release=302 Lincoln, MA – Thursday, October 9, 2014 – Avidyne Corporation, a leading provider of integrated avionics and safety systems for general aviation aircraft, introduced the MLB100 Datalink Receiver for ADS-B (Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast) IN. The MLB100 is designed to provide ADS-B traffic and Flight Information System-Broadcast (FIS-B) weather information for display on Avidyne’s new IFD540 and IFD440 FMS/GPS/NAV/COMs, as well as EX600, EX500 and EX5000 Multi-Function Displays (MFD). |
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AviSimpson ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Location: Lincoln, MA Status: Offline Points: 765 |
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David is spot on here. Release 8.2 is still happening and is well through the development and testing process.
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Simpson Bennett
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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Any updates? There is only 1 month left in Q4 2017, it would be a very nice Christmas present.
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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Hello Simpson
I guess Q4 2017 estimate for revision 8.2 did not happen. The whole reason for installing the Skytrax was to have traffic on the EX5000 MFD. If for some reason there are some technical or certification issues that would make it impossible to have that happen, please let us know so we can explore other options that would display traffic on the MFD such as L3 Skywatch traffic. Hope the new year brings joy and much awaited updates
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kgrant ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 15 Dec 2015 Location: Bolivar, MO Status: Offline Points: 32 |
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ditto.
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AviSimpson ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Location: Lincoln, MA Status: Offline Points: 765 |
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We are very close to the approval. Flight testing for FAA credit should conclude in the coming day(s).
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Simpson Bennett
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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Keeping our fingers crossed, hoping for a quick FAA approval.
Thanks for the update
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DavidBunin ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 May 2015 Location: Rockwall, TX Status: Offline Points: 742 |
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Quick is relative. At this point I would have April (Sun N Fun) in mind. If Avidyne is doing for-credit test flights now, it means the final data package has not yet been submitted for approval (since the results of the test flights are a required data report in the submission).
When an applicant submits a data package, the FAA has their standard interval to review it. That is usually 60 days for minor changes and 90 days for major changes. Before the FAA's review interval expires, one of two things is supposed to happen; either they approve the data as-submitted, or they ask the applicant a question about it. If they ask a question, then the applicant has as long as he wants to respond. (The applicant usually is very motivated to respond quickly.) Then a new review 60-90-day clock starts at the FAA for the response that was submitted. Since the applicant never knows if or how many times the FAA will ask for more information, he never really knows how long the approval process will take. You get these "in a perfect world, 60 days" kind of answers, but then people latch on to that thinking it is a knowable thing. |
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chflyer ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2013 Location: LSZK Status: Offline Points: 1022 |
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From your timeline sequence description, David, I would say that April (Sun n Fun) sits in the "in a perfect world" category.
From the perspective of a customer awaiting delivery, I would suggest that end of Q2 (June 30) is a more reasonable expectation and if everything goes perfectly a slightly earlier date is possible. From the time A has FAA approval in hand, there is also a delay until users can implement although in this case that should be relatively short since it appears to be mostly a piece of paper (STC, svc doc, manual update?) that needs to get into users/installers hands.
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Vince
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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How did the flight testing go? How close are you to the approval?
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Ibraham ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 21 May 2016 Location: KHWO Status: Offline Points: 357 |
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