Map Orientation View
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Forum Name: IFD 5 Series & IFD 4 Series Touch Screen GPS/NAV/COM
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Topic: Map Orientation View
Posted By: teeth6
Subject: Map Orientation View
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 3:48pm
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I like to keep my top 540 in Track Up Centered view with the aircraft centered. I know that you can toggle through the different views by pushing in the bottom knob repeatedly. Sometimes times when I start up, the 540 is back in North up view and I have to toggle it back to Track Up Centered. Has anyone else seen this? It happened again today and now that I think of it, I also did an update of the Nav Data and Obstacles and had to push in the bottom knob to select those options before starting the update. Is it possible that pushing in the bottom knob to make selections when doing an update, would also change the desired map view (since it is the same knob action)? If not, what might the cause be? |
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Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 5:58pm
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No, I see this too. It may have to do with how quickly a GPS lock is made, don't know. And, if it ends up in North up mode after a power up, for mysterious (to me) reasons, it will have to be manually reset to track up. * Orest |
Posted By: Gring
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 9:00pm
| It happens to me occasionally to me as well. I've never been able to determine why exactly. |
Posted By: M20Kid
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 10:31pm
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Same thing here. I fly with Track up but periodically the screen resets to North up. Doesn't seem to be any reason, just the Avidyne gremlins messing with stuff, I suppose. Hmmm ... |
Posted By: dubs
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 10:52pm
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Just curious, when flying IFR, what view do people prefer? I've always flown with Foreflight in North-Up orientation. However, on the IFD440, I think I prefer track up, with Land and Nav Data turned all the way down. What do others prefer? ------------- Baron C55 Tulsa, OK |
Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 11:42pm
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I have 2 540s so this may not work for you but I keep my top unit in Track Up mode and keep the range anywhere from 20 miles down to 6 miles as I get closer to my destination. I keep my bottom 540 in North Up and keep it dialed out to about 100 miles for a general overview. On Foreflight, I tend to alternate between the 2 views depending on whether I want to read an item on the chart or just navigating. |
Posted By: PA20Pacer
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 9:00am
I much prefer track up on both the 540 and Foreflight. Actually, I use heading up on the 540. I wish that the 540 had the ability to display the Jeppesen approach charts in a track (or heading) up mode. Regards, Bob ------------- Bob Siegfried, II Brookeridge Airpark (LL22) Downers Grove, IL |
dubs wrote:Posted By: AUXAIR
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 9:21am
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My choice is similar to one above: with both a 540 and 440, I keep the 540 in heading up mode and the 440 in North up. ForeFlight is usually in track up unless I am planning a flight. I am eager to be able to transfer a planned flight from the iPad to the 540/440. ------------- David E. Cessna 182 RG II |
Posted By: flybikeski
Date Posted: 28 May 2016 at 1:30pm
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I use track up on the 540 and north up on the
iPad, which typically displays VFR or IFR charts. I prefer north up on charts because for one thing, you can read the text more easily, and it gives me a better overall situational awareness since I shouldn't get confused which way north is, but it happens. I have an approach chart subscription but I'm finding I really prefer to have approach charts on the iPad and let the 540 display the step down fixes, etc. I also find it easier to see and manipulate the approach chart on the iPad.
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Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2016 at 10:16am
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Although the issue with the 540 starting up in "North Up" instead of the "Track Up" view it was shut down in, is not a big deal, it has been happening much more frequently. It seems others have seen this too and it has now happened on my last 3 flights. It really is no problem to toggle back to the view I want but I'm just curious if Avidyne has any ideas on the cause of this? |
Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2016 at 7:54pm
I might wonder the same thing. See this from time to time, can't really associate it with something. * Orest |
Posted By: DavidBunin
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2016 at 10:04am
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One thing to consider: When the aircraft is being powered up, if you don't move, there isn't a track value. Have you tried to notice if you are moving before the GPS locks in to a position? David Bunin |
Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2016 at 10:35am
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Yes, When it changes to North up, it stays that way until I toggle it back to Track up. |
Posted By: DavidBunin
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2016 at 3:54pm
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When it DOESN'T change to North Up, what is the Track value before you move? (Also do you move the airplane into or out of a hangar while the unit is powered down?) Such that the airplane isn't pointed the same direction it was at power-down. |
Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2016 at 4:39pm
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I would have to check the Track value when it doesn't revert to North up and I do move the airplane into a hangar after it is powered down but it is basically just pushing it straight back so it is roughly on the same heading it was on when powered down. Also, this change sometimes happens when I am just parked outside after making a flight and starting up again later the same day in the same spot. |
Posted By: MarkZ
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2016 at 5:20pm
| I just flew mine today and couldn't get anything but North up even after changing it from the AUX page. I'm off in the am and plan on setting it before I head out and see how that goes. |
Posted By: Gring
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 8:30am
| Mark, to change the map orientation, you need to push the bottom right button. It will cycle between North Up, Track Up Arc, and Track Up centered. The Aux user setting only changes between Track and Heading mode for those three views. |
Posted By: PeterC
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 9:27am
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I had the same problem, and it took me a little while until I realized that I had to have the MAP page active, not FMS or Aux, before the orientation could be set. I found I was trying to set it while on the FMS page and nothing was happening. ------------- Peter - 1977 Cardinal RG C-FJPC - IFD550/540/240/322/605A/Skytrax100, Aspen MAX 2000, Trio A/P |
Posted By: MarkZ
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 9:25pm
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Duh.... I figgered it out today... Push the right lower knob and the view changes. I'm a happy camper! https://www.flickr.com/gp/125356136@N02/1h7egD |
Posted By: dubs
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2016 at 5:14pm
Had another map display anomaly last week. Departing New Orleans for Panama City, FL, I had me IFD-440 in FMS mode, map shown in "Track Up" orientation. However, after take-off and after making my initial turn on course, the underlying map did not rotate. It still showed me on runway heading. I was able to correct the display by switching to Map screen, cycling through map views, then back to FMS. This is the second time something like this has happened. Is it a bug in my unit, or have others experienced the same issue? ------------- Baron C55 Tulsa, OK |
Posted By: comancheguy
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2016 at 8:17pm
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When I was having issues like this, it was because my DG provides heading info to the 540. (When you turn the DG knob, the 540 map rotates). Not saying that this is your problem.
Ken |
Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2016 at 10:16am
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Is that an actual picture from the time of your observed anomaly? You have the system in FMS Cursor Centered mode and the cursor on the previous waypoint (the one prior to the active leg). So, if this is a picture from your anomaly, that would explain the behavior you saw and the system is working per design. ------------- Steve Jacobson sjacobson@avidyne.com |
Posted By: dubs
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2016 at 1:12pm
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So, your saying that if it's in Cursor Centered view, it doesn't automatically index to the next waypoint and the map doesn't rotate if in track up mode. If so, that would explain the behavior. It is my routine that after plugging in the flight plan to put the unit in Cursor Centered mode and to step through the flight plan to make sure everything looks right. I guess I need to add to that routing to take the unit out of Cursor mode before departure. ------------- Baron C55 Tulsa, OK |
Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2016 at 1:19pm
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I keep mine in track up all the time. To step through all the waypoints to be sure everything is correct, simply use the knob on the right and just scroll down the list of waypoints. |