IFD 5 Series & IFD 4 Series Touch Screen GPS/NAV/COM

MITRE App integration

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Topic: MITRE App integration

Posted By: brou0040
Subject: MITRE App integration
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 9:10am

It may not be ready yet, but I'd love to see flight plan integration between the https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2017/november/30/app-could-deliver-ifr-clearances-to-mobile-devices?utm_source=ePilot&utm_medium=email&utm_content=adv&utm_campaign=171130epilot" rel="nofollow - MITRE app and the IFDs. The app seems like a great idea and hope it becomes available soon.

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Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 9:50am

Interesting. We have some friends at MITRE that might be able to tell us more.

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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
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Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 5:24pm

The app looks trivial. The interesting part is the air controller and server technology.

If the protocol is public then an app like Foreflight could implement it too. Imagine being able to file in Foreflight, get the clearance, and upload it to the IFD. This would be wonderful, especially for IFR from non-towered airports.

The only thing missing is the ability to get amended clearances while in the air. That can't be done through cell phones, unfortunately.

Posted By: brou0040
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 7:46pm

Paul wrote:

The app looks trivial. The interesting part is the air controller and server technology.

If the protocol is public then an app like Foreflight could implement it too.

Exactly, I hope their app is just a proof of concept and that they'll provide the capability for developers to incorporate the capability into their EFDs.

Paul wrote:

The only thing missing is the ability to get amended clearances while in the air. That can't be done through cell phones, unfortunately.

I was wondering the same thing. I wonder if they could use ADS-B somehow to datalink updates. It would be one way only so you'd have to request over the air, but they could respond via datalink. The EFB could verify the update was specific to you if the update included something to tied to aircraft specific info in your ADS-B out transmission.

Posted By: AzAv8r
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 9:02pm

Let's worry about the amended clearances later. This is interesting, but unless the app delivers a standardized payload (a CRAFT packet with defined format, such that it can be reliably parsed), it has no bearing on the IFD.

We'd need a protocol that delivers a message that, independent of how the app formats it for presentation to the pilot, it can be imported into the IFD (via WiFi or Bluetooth), accepted by the pilot, and then entered into a flight plan.

How do we ensure that outcome? Screen-scraping (where the app has to, through local logic, infer the content intent) would seem to be a non-starter for an Aviation environment.

Posted By: brou0040
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2017 at 9:17pm

The link above says "could include flight plan loading" and shows a GNS 430. I'm not suggesting Avidyne look for a way to hack the app, I'm hoping MITRE follows through with the flight plan loading which would likely be some sort of protocol that Avidyne could incorporate.

Posted By: paulr
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2017 at 10:11am

This is just a technology demonstration for now, not a fielded app, and I don't know if the FAA has any plans to field it in the near term. As full as their plates are, I doubt it. Don't give up your paper CRAFT template just yet.