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    Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 4:17pm
Originally posted by Katamarino Katamarino wrote:

I do have to ask how Avidyne managed to design and certify a modern GPS without thinking to code or test for such a well known issue as the rollover (that others such as a certain big G managed fine). Seems like a glaring engineering omission? 

What else has been forgotten about in our units?


Your assertion is not correct, and misleading. There is nothing mysterious about the GPS rollover, it was known about since GPS was first established. As I understand it, it could not be corrected for until close to the rollover date. The limitation is in the design of the GPS data stream, not the GPS unit's firmware, whether A's or G's.

Garmin released a similar patch late last year, it was bundled in one of their firmware updates, much like Avidyne was planning to do.

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I just loaded the patch with no difficulties.

Thanks for the support.
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Your computer has associated the file type with Acrobat and will show any file with that extension, on any drive, as an Acrobat file. However, if you just copy it to a USB drive and you insert the drive into another computer (the IFD), that computer will interpret the extension as whatever its settings tell it the file is for.
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I do have to ask how Avidyne managed to design and certify a modern GPS without thinking to code or test for such a well known issue as the rollover (that others such as a certain big G managed fine). Seems like a glaring engineering omission? 

What else has been forgotten about in our units?
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In my downloads folder it shows correctly as a .dsf file. But on the fob, under "Type" it's an Adobe Acrobat file.
It must have to do with how I download and transfer files.
I'm going to try to install the patch in the AM.
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Originally posted by Stevei Stevei wrote:

I just tried downloading the patch. When I transfer it to the fob, it shows as an Adobe Acrobat Document. That can't be right. Probably due to settings I have on uploads. What now?


There are two files. One is the PDF (read it through completely and follow the directions explicitly), and then the firmware patch file itself. You are missing the second file.

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I did the patch update for the IFD540 in my 24 volt Mooney. I just pulled it out on the ramp and started up the engine. It took less then 10 minutes to do the patch install start to finish. I thought it was all pretty easy.

Just note that if you don't delete it from the USB stick, and you use the same stick for database updates, it will default to wanting to install the dfs file every time. Solve that by deleting the file off the USB after the update is done.
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I just tried downloading the patch. When I transfer it to the fob, it shows as an Adobe Acrobat Document. That can't be right. Probably due to settings I have on uploads. What now?
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Originally posted by whiskykilo1 whiskykilo1 wrote:

Do you know if with the Avidyne software update also a remote control of the normal device is possible?
No, if the NGT9000 has a front panel, then the IFD cannot control it.  It's only the NGT9000R.
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Hello Steve,

the normal (not remote) Lynx NGT 9000+ has also remote capabilities.

Do you know if with the Avidyne software update also a remote control of the normal device is possible?

In my Beech it is possible to install the normal device, but the operation would be easier on the Avidyne.

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Avidyne posted the below message on 3/21/19:

”So I'm the bearer of not so great news. The software team discovered a pretty significant bug yesterday so it's looks like it's going to be end of April for the release date. If you haven't done the patch yet I'd suggest doing that right away. We'll keep you posted.”

Hope this helps.
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Update: Avidyne is working on of the release of IFD software version 10.2.3.1 but unfortunately a bug has been found in the software. This will delay the release until at the best the end of April for all models and versions of IFDs. 
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Software update was due to be released by end of March. We're there.

Does anyone know when it will happen?
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Originally posted by tony tony wrote:

Avidyne, shouldn't the SIL be posted here as well? https://avidyne.com/support/downloads.asp?prod=ifdpart23
It's up there now.  Thanks for pointing it out!
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Originally posted by tony tony wrote:

Avidyne, shouldn't the SIL be posted here as well? https://avidyne.com/support/downloads.asp?prod=ifdpart23
I notified the webmaster and she said she would take care of it.
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Avidyne, shouldn't the SIL be posted here as well? https://avidyne.com/support/downloads.asp?prod=ifdpart23
 
 
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Thanks, yes.

Actually, after my post I found the email stuck in one of my filters.

Update complete now.  The load took only about ten minutes.
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Does this help...email came yesterday:

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Hi Don,

Update: Avidyne is working on of the release of IFD software version 10.2.3.1 but unfortunately a bug has been found in the software. This will delay the release until at the best the end of April for all models and versions of IFDs. The new IFD trainer app has been released to the App store so you can go there and download it now. If you have not updated your GPS rollover patch you should do so ASAP. 

Release 10.2.3.1 will add many new features including the following enhancements:

  1. Adds GLAS (GPS Legacy Avionics Support) for support of Proline 21 in CJ and King Air
  2. Adds improved ADS-B Weather and Traffic integration with Foreflight
  3. Adds ADS-B textual TFRs, AIRMETS and SIGMETS.
  4. Adds support for Garmin G5 HSI
  5. Adds support for Lynx NGT-9000 Remote Transponder
  6. Adds a new zoom mode which provides the ability to display large datablocks and button label text
  7. Adds support for both Heads-Up Technologies XMD-076A datalink and GDL 69A SXM
  8. Allows for display of datablocks on the SVS pages
  9. Improves display and editing features of Airways SIDS and STARS and approaches
  10. Adds fuel totalizer function when connected to a remote fuel computer
  11. Improved Wi-Fi configuration to ease integration with Stratus, Foreflight and other Wi-Fi connected devices.

The new 10.2.3.1 new IFD Trainer includes all the 10.2.3.1 features, new tutorials on using the system, much more flexibility in "flying" the simulated IFD, easier database loading, and a host of other improvements.

IMPORTANT

All Avidyne IFDs will require a MANDATORY update to address the GPS week rollover that takes place on April 6, 2019. This update is necessary to maintain proper display of ADS-B and SXM weather as well as other date related functions including proper display of database currency. No GPS/NAV/COM functions are affected. 10.2.x.0.A for 10.2.x.0 is available now to address this issue and 10.2.3.1, when released, will also incorporate this update. You will also need to update your IFD100 app once you complete your GPS Rollover update.

Here are your options for updating the software to address the GPS rollover issue:

  1. Update the IFD with 10.2.3.1 when it is released to get the enhancements plus address the GPS rollover date issue.
  2. Update the 10.2.x.0 software with 10.2.x.0.A patch to address the GPS rollover date issue only.
  3. Update the 10.1.x.0 software with 10.2.2.0.A to address the GPS rollover date issue and bring the IFD to the latest software rev.

Please read the very important FAQs attached and let us know if you have any questions!
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>> Additionally, the email had 3 link buttons for FAQ, Service Bulletin, and Request GPS Rollover Update for 10.2.X.0 Software.

I probably received the same email, but I can't find it.  Anybody have those links? 


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In addition to the Avidyne post to the Facebook closed group, Avidyne Pilots Club, shared above, I received an email directly from PilotSupport@Avidyne.com this afternoon, 3/22/19, bearing the same news.

The body of the email is posted here:

Hi Fassas,,

Update: Avidyne is working on of the release of IFD software version 10.2.3.1 but unfortunately a bug has been found in the software. This will delay the release until at the best the end of April for all models and versions of IFDs. The new IFD trainer app has been released to the App store so you can go there and download it now. If you have not updated your GPS rollover patch you should do so ASAP.

Release 10.2.3.1 will add many new features including the following enhancements:

  1. Adds GLAS (GPS Legacy Avionics Support) for support of Proline 21 in CJ and King Air
  2. Adds improved ADS-B Weather and Traffic integration with Foreflight
  3. Adds ADS-B textual TFRs, AIRMETS and SIGMETS.
  4. Adds support for Garmin G5 HSI
  5. Adds support for Lynx NGT-9000 Remote Transponder
  6. Adds a new zoom mode which provides the ability to display large datablocks and button label text
  7. Adds support for both Heads-Up Technologies XMD-076A datalink and GDL 69A SXM
  8. Allows for display of datablocks on the SVS pages
  9. Improves display and editing features of Airways SIDS and STARS and approaches
  10. Adds fuel totalizer function when connected to a remote fuel computer
  11. Improved Wi-Fi configuration to ease integration with Stratus, Foreflight and other Wi-Fi connected devices.

The new 10.2.3.1 new IFD Trainer includes all the 10.2.3.1 features, new tutorials on using the system, much more flexibility in "flying" the simulated IFD, easier database loading, and a host of other improvements.

IMPORTANT

All Avidyne IFDs will require a MANDATORY update to address the GPS week rollover that takes place on April 6, 2019. This update is necessary to maintain proper display of ADS-B and SXM weather as well as other date related functions including proper display of database currency. No GPS/NAV/COM functions are affected. 10.2.x.0.A for 10.2.x.0 is available now to address this issue and 10.2.3.1, when released, will also incorporate this update. You will also need to update your IFD100 app once you complete your GPS Rollover update.

Here are your options for updating the software to address the GPS rollover issue:

  1. Update the IFD with 10.2.3.1 when it is released to get the enhancements plus address the GPS rollover date issue.
  2. Update the 10.2.x.0 software with 10.2.x.0.A patch to address the GPS rollover date issue only.
  3. Update the 10.1.x.0 software with 10.2.2.0.A to address the GPS rollover date issue and bring the IFD to the latest software rev.

Please read the very important FAQs attached and let us know if you have any questions!

Additionally, the email had 3 link buttons for FAQ, Service Bulletin, and Request GPS Rollover Update for 10.2.X.0 Software.
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Avidyne posted on their facebook page:

"So I'm the bearer of not so great news. The software team discovered a pretty significant bug yesterday so it's looks like it's going to be end of April for the release date. If you haven't done the patch yet I'd suggest doing that right away. We'll keep you posted."
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Originally posted by allenc3 allenc3 wrote:

Looks like 10.23.1 will be delayed? Is that true? If so those who have not done the rollover patch needs to do so...


What is the context for your comment? I haven't heard anything more about the timing.

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Looks like 10.23.1 will be delayed? Is that true? If so those who have not done the rollover patch needs to do so...
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I use one of these with the output hooked to a standard Piper round jumper cable.  Works great.
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DO NOT have the update yet, in my IFD.

BUT, the new V2 trainer app DOES have it. A nice preview of the functions.

With the trainer app release, expect that the firmware update is imminent.

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Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

Well, a quick glance at 10.2.3.1, in the new trainer app.

They have done exactly as I had suggested for the next leg/waypoint enhancement, that is reversing the order of the barber pole so white comes first and increasing the size of the waypont marks. Well, I'm delighted, and honored!

The BB is much more visible now, great! Handy thing.

And, flightplan same waypoints no longer "merge" and disappear, between approaches and such. THey can be split apart if needed, no need to put in "fake" waypoints to separate them. Excellent.

Even just those three things is a lot!

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Did you already get the update? Didn't know it was out yet
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Well, a quick glance at 10.2.3.1, in the new trainer app.

They have done exactly as I had suggested for the next leg/waypoint enhancement, that is reversing the order of the barber pole so white comes first and increasing the size of the waypont marks. Well, I'm delighted, and honored!

The BB is much more visible now, great! Handy thing.

And, flightplan same waypoints no longer "merge" and disappear, between approaches and such. THey can be split apart if needed, no need to put in "fake" waypoints to separate them. Excellent.

Even just those three things is a lot!

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Not jump start, but you can use the car as the power source. You could hook the car to the ground power plug. Start the car, and you won’t wear down the battery as you wait for an hour for the firmware update to take place.
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Not looking to jump start it. The Tiger is one of the easiest airplanes to do that on, I want to continuously power the bus while updateing or otherwise practicing on my Ayidyne IDF 440. I tried just adding a 25 AMP charger to the battery, but using a ground power plug I can bypass the battery altogether by just energizing the Bus.
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Here's a 12 volt plane being jumped by a motorcycle instead of a battery

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If you have a 12V plane, you can just jump it with a car or car battery.
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Originally posted by allenc3 allenc3 wrote:

Chief with tax and shipping is $297 here in Florida as they have to charge sales tax, Pilot Shop has the unit for $283, no tax and free shipping. If I can convince Avidyne to allow me (under supervision of my AI) to install this updates, I will but one of these units.

BTW

If you really want to spend some money on one of these Chargers, Sporty's has the same one listed for $389 plus tax and shipping.

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You don't need to convince Avidyne of anything.  Your A&P is authorized and approved for doing the install.  I would use my A&P's power supply rather than shelling out the money for one that gets used so rarely.
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Chief with tax and shipping is $297 here in Florida as they have to charge sales tax, Pilot Shop has the unit for $283, no tax and free shipping. If I can convince Avidyne to allow me (under supervision of my AI) to install this updates, I will but one of these units.

BTW

If you really want to spend some money on one of these Chargers, Sporty's has the same one listed for $389 plus tax and shipping.

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I believe your ‘83 Archer works the same; according to the Piper Archer maintenance manual, this is the same for all Archer IIs. The Archer IIIs are also this way; however, have 28v electrical systems.
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In my Bonanza S35, I bypass the battery solenoid and put the positive lead of a 13.6V power supply (30A), positive lead on the main buss terminal coming out of the solenoid.  I put the negative to ground.  This bypasses the master relay switch, and keeps buss voltage at 13.6V +/- 0.4V.  

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Thx, mine is an 83 but I'll try it.
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On my 1978 vintage Archer, when external power is applied, a relay closes that powers the airplane’s electrical system with both sides of the master switch off. At this point, all I need to do is turn on the avionics master switch on to power the avionics.
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Originally posted by dmtidler dmtidler wrote:

I use a 12V Schauer portable power unit I bought from Aircraft Spruce a few years ago connected in parallel with a 12V used aircraft battery for external power for my 12V Piper Archer. With this airplane, this keeps me from having to turn the master (aircraft battery) on to power the avionics and helps protect against power outages and surges while the aircraft is externally powered.


Isn't the avionics master run through the normal master switch? I've got an Archer with external power also and was considering just running the jumper to a 2nd battery. I still thought I'd have to turn the main master on (battery side only on the split switch).
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The cheapest price I find for the Cessna version of the 12V ground power supply is $249.50 at Chief Aircraft: http://www.chiefaircraft.com/sch-jac2512c.html
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I use a 12V Schauer portable power unit I bought from Aircraft Spruce a few years ago connected in parallel with a 12V used aircraft battery for external power for my 12V Piper Archer. With this airplane, this keeps me from having to turn the master (aircraft battery) on to power the avionics and helps protect against power outages and surges while the aircraft is externally powered.
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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

Originally posted by SB Jim SB Jim wrote:

Steve,

My avionics shop is a long way from home base. Going there for software updates means burning most of a day. My long time IA is willing to supervise my installation of updates to the IFD 540 and sign off my logs upon completion.

I’m computer literate and have updated my brand G box but never the Avidyne which is still flawlessly running the software it had when it was installed in 2015. I want to get it up to date.

Whom should I call at Avidyne to get access to the updates and get this started?

I’ve already discussed this with my IA and he’s good to go with this. I just need to get pointed in the right direction.

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Call tech support, ask for Chris Evans, and explain the situation.


I've got the same issue as I'll be picking up my plane after a 440 install next week and the shop is 200 miles from home. I've got a few APs and IAs where I live although they tend to use me as their techie. Will Chris be at SunNFun?
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I looked at that ground power unit, the 12 volt one being considerably cheaper if you call almost $300 cheap. I found you can purchase this thing cheaper on Aircraft Spruce's companion page called pilot Shop, and the shipping is free too,
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well, 2nm is not a small enough scale. compared to the garmin 650, the ifd440 is too cluttered. it would be a good thing to have a smaller (1/4nm) scale to focus in on certain airport/ground features. please see what you can do to make this happen. thanks, andy
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I have installed the software patches and my A&P/IA signs off on them. I got them from Chris. Just be aware that they take a long time to load. I attach ground power to my plane in order to not wear down the battery. In 12/14V planes, you can use a jumper and connect up to a running car. Aircraft Sprice sells portable power supplies too, like this one for a 24V plane:
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I have the same Issue. My AI here on my field signed off on the GPS rollover patch, which he signed and I faxed back to Avidyne. Can he sign off on the 10.2.3.1 Software when available? This would save me having to not only make a 2-3 hour round trip, but also save me having to take a day off during the week, as most avionics shops are not open on weekends

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Thank you.

Will do.

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Originally posted by SB Jim SB Jim wrote:

Steve,

My avionics shop is a long way from home base. Going there for software updates means burning most of a day. My long time IA is willing to supervise my installation of updates to the IFD 540 and sign off my logs upon completion.

I’m computer literate and have updated my brand G box but never the Avidyne which is still flawlessly running the software it had when it was installed in 2015. I want to get it up to date.

Whom should I call at Avidyne to get access to the updates and get this started?

I’ve already discussed this with my IA and he’s good to go with this. I just need to get pointed in the right direction.

Regards, Jim
Call tech support, ask for Chris Evans, and explain the situation.
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Steve,

My avionics shop is a long way from home base. Going there for software updates means burning most of a day. My long time IA is willing to supervise my installation of updates to the IFD 540 and sign off my logs upon completion.

I’m computer literate and have updated my brand G box but never the Avidyne which is still flawlessly running the software it had when it was installed in 2015. I want to get it up to date.

Whom should I call at Avidyne to get access to the updates and get this started?

I’ve already discussed this with my IA and he’s good to go with this. I just need to get pointed in the right direction.

Regards, Jim
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Originally posted by donemory donemory wrote:

I just received a new IFD540 last week, (3/4/19), to get installed week after next, will it have the updated software, 10.2.3.1?
No, 10.2.3.1 is not yet released.

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I just received a new IFD540 last week, (3/4/19), to get installed week after next, will it have the updated software, 10.2.3.1?

Edited by donemory - 13 Mar 2019 at 3:55pm
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