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oskrypuch ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 2012 Location: CYFD Status: Offline Points: 3062 |
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Your assertion is not correct, and misleading. There is nothing mysterious about the GPS rollover, it was known about since GPS was first established. As I understand it, it could not be corrected for until close to the rollover date. The limitation is in the design of the GPS data stream, not the GPS unit's firmware, whether A's or G's. Garmin released a similar patch late last year, it was bundled in one of their firmware updates, much like Avidyne was planning to do. * Orest Edited by oskrypuch - 07 Apr 2019 at 9:14pm |
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Stevei ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 13 Dec 2018 Location: No. California Status: Offline Points: 64 |
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I just loaded the patch with no difficulties.
Thanks for the support.
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HenryM ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 13 Oct 2017 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 504 |
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Your computer has associated the file type with Acrobat and will show any file with that extension, on any drive, as an Acrobat file. However, if you just copy it to a USB drive and you insert the drive into another computer (the IFD), that computer will interpret the extension as whatever its settings tell it the file is for.
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Katamarino ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 29 Dec 2018 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 13 |
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I do have to ask how Avidyne managed to design and certify a modern GPS without thinking to code or test for such a well known issue as the rollover (that others such as a certain big G managed fine). Seems like a glaring engineering omission?
What else has been forgotten about in our units?
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Stevei ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 13 Dec 2018 Location: No. California Status: Offline Points: 64 |
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In my downloads folder it shows correctly as a .dsf file. But on the fob, under "Type" it's an Adobe Acrobat file.
It must have to do with how I download and transfer files. I'm going to try to install the patch in the AM. Hopefully all will go well.
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oskrypuch ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 2012 Location: CYFD Status: Offline Points: 3062 |
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There are two files. One is the PDF (read it through completely and follow the directions explicitly), and then the firmware patch file itself. You are missing the second file. * Orest |
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gsxrpilot ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 20 Dec 2016 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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I did the patch update for the IFD540 in my 24 volt Mooney. I just pulled it out on the ramp and started up the engine. It took less then 10 minutes to do the patch install start to finish. I thought it was all pretty easy.
Just note that if you don't delete it from the USB stick, and you use the same stick for database updates, it will default to wanting to install the dfs file every time. Solve that by deleting the file off the USB after the update is done.
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Stevei ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 13 Dec 2018 Location: No. California Status: Offline Points: 64 |
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I just tried downloading the patch. When I transfer it to the fob, it shows as an Adobe Acrobat Document. That can't be right. Probably due to settings I have on uploads. What now?
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AviSteve ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Feb 2018 Location: Melbourne, FL Status: Offline Points: 2319 |
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No, if the NGT9000 has a front panel, then the IFD cannot control it. It's only the NGT9000R.
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Hello Steve, the normal (not remote) Lynx NGT 9000+ has also remote capabilities. Do you know if with the Avidyne software update also a remote control of the normal device is possible? In my Beech it is possible to install the normal device, but the operation would be easier on the Avidyne. Thanks Wolfgang
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EASA registered Beech Bonanza F33A located in EDKB Hangelar/Germany, Aspen 1000 EFD, 2 x IFD540
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donemory ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Feb 2019 Location: Medina, OH Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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Avidyne posted the below message on 3/21/19:
”So I'm the bearer of not so great news. The software team discovered a pretty significant bug yesterday so it's looks like it's going to be end of April for the release date. If you haven't done the patch yet I'd suggest doing that right away. We'll keep you posted.” Hope this helps.
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dpcraig ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Jan 2016 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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Update: Avidyne is working on of the release of IFD software version 10.2.3.1 but unfortunately a bug has been found in the software. This will delay the release until at the best the end of April for all models and versions of IFDs.
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Stevei ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 13 Dec 2018 Location: No. California Status: Offline Points: 64 |
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Software update was due to be released by end of March. We're there.
Does anyone know when it will happen?
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AviSteve ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Feb 2018 Location: Melbourne, FL Status: Offline Points: 2319 |
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It's up there now. Thanks for pointing it out!
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AviSteve ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Feb 2018 Location: Melbourne, FL Status: Offline Points: 2319 |
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I notified the webmaster and she said she would take care of it.
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tony ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Dec 2011 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 466 |
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Avidyne, shouldn't the SIL be posted here as well? https://avidyne.com/support/downloads.asp?prod=ifdpart23
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DavidBunin ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 May 2015 Location: Rockwall, TX Status: Offline Points: 742 |
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Thanks, yes. Actually, after my post I found the email stuck in one of my filters. Update complete now. The load took only about ten minutes.
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donemory ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Feb 2019 Location: Medina, OH Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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Does this help...email came yesterday:
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DavidBunin ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 May 2015 Location: Rockwall, TX Status: Offline Points: 742 |
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Additionally, the email had 3 link buttons for FAQ, Service Bulletin, and Request GPS Rollover Update for 10.2.X.0 Software. I probably received the same email, but I can't find it. Anybody have those links?
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afassas ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jun 2017 Location: KRGA Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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In addition to the Avidyne post to the Facebook closed group, Avidyne Pilots Club, shared above, I received an email directly from PilotSupport@Avidyne.com this afternoon, 3/22/19, bearing the same news. The body of the email is posted here:
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HenryM ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 13 Oct 2017 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 504 |
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Avidyne posted on their facebook page:
"So I'm the bearer of not so great news. The software team discovered a pretty significant bug yesterday so it's looks like it's going to be end of April for the release date. If you haven't done the patch yet I'd suggest doing that right away. We'll keep you posted."
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oskrypuch ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 2012 Location: CYFD Status: Offline Points: 3062 |
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What is the context for your comment? I haven't heard anything more about the timing. * Orest Edited by oskrypuch - 22 Mar 2019 at 5:47pm |
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allenc3 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Feb 2019 Location: 32043 Status: Offline Points: 126 |
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Looks like 10.23.1 will be delayed? Is that true? If so those who have not done the rollover patch needs to do so...
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FlyingCOham ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Oct 2015 Location: COS (KFLY) Status: Offline Points: 125 |
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I use one of these with the output hooked to a standard Piper round jumper cable. Works great.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Astron-RS-20A-Power-Supply-Ham-Radio-/223449064986?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10 |
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oskrypuch ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 2012 Location: CYFD Status: Offline Points: 3062 |
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DO NOT have the update yet, in my IFD. BUT, the new V2 trainer app DOES have it. A nice preview of the functions. With the trainer app release, expect that the firmware update is imminent. * Orest Edited by oskrypuch - 21 Mar 2019 at 5:02pm |
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forkauto ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Apr 2018 Location: Maryland Status: Offline Points: 51 |
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Did you already get the update? Didn't know it was out yet
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oskrypuch ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 2012 Location: CYFD Status: Offline Points: 3062 |
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Well, a quick glance at 10.2.3.1, in the new trainer app. They have done
exactly as I had suggested for the next leg/waypoint enhancement, that is
reversing the order of the barber pole so white comes first and
increasing the size of the waypont marks. Well, I'm delighted, and
honored! The BB is much more visible now, great! Handy thing. And, flightplan same waypoints no longer "merge" and disappear, between approaches and such. THey can be split apart if needed, no need to put in "fake" waypoints to separate them. Excellent. Even just those three things is a lot! Edited by oskrypuch - 21 Mar 2019 at 4:07pm |
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HenryM ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 13 Oct 2017 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 504 |
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Not jump start, but you can use the car as the power source. You could hook the car to the ground power plug. Start the car, and you won’t wear down the battery as you wait for an hour for the firmware update to take place.
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allenc3 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Feb 2019 Location: 32043 Status: Offline Points: 126 |
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Not looking to jump start it. The Tiger is one of the easiest airplanes to do that on, I want to continuously power the bus while updateing or otherwise practicing on my Ayidyne IDF 440. I tried just adding a 25 AMP charger to the battery, but using a ground power plug I can bypass the battery altogether by just energizing the Bus.
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Flybuddy ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 25 Jan 2019 Location: Fort Myers Status: Offline Points: 145 |
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Here's a 12 volt plane being jumped by a motorcycle instead of a battery https://www.msn.com/nb-no/motor/video/motorcycle-jumps-over-airplane/vp-BBR4ReM
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HenryM ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 13 Oct 2017 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 504 |
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If you have a 12V plane, you can just jump it with a car or car battery.
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allenc3 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Feb 2019 Location: 32043 Status: Offline Points: 126 |
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Chief with tax and shipping is $297 here in Florida as they have to charge sales tax, Pilot Shop has the unit for $283, no tax and free shipping. If I can convince Avidyne to allow me (under supervision of my AI) to install this updates, I will but one of these units.
BTW If you really want to spend some money on one of these Chargers, Sporty's has the same one listed for $389 plus tax and shipping. Claude |
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dmtidler ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Feb 2016 Location: USA Status: Online Points: 630 |
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I believe your ‘83 Archer works the same; according to the Piper Archer maintenance manual, this is the same for all Archer IIs. The Archer IIIs are also this way; however, have 28v electrical systems.
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In my Bonanza S35, I bypass the battery solenoid and put the positive lead of a 13.6V power supply (30A), positive lead on the main buss terminal coming out of the solenoid. I put the negative to ground. This bypasses the master relay switch, and keeps buss voltage at 13.6V +/- 0.4V.
There is a big draw when the 540s power up, and otherwise there could be a 1 V drop or maybe more if just drawing off of battery. I also found by doing this a bunch of times, the connection through which the incoming power comes to the main buss (at the ammeter) was loose. Fixing this gives me rock solid power through any update cycle (as long as I don't let some idiot walk around the airframe and compromise the connections).
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Thx, mine is an 83 but I'll try it.
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On my 1978 vintage Archer, when external power is applied, a relay closes that powers the airplane’s electrical system with both sides of the master switch off. At this point, all I need to do is turn on the avionics master switch on to power the avionics.
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Flybuddy ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 25 Jan 2019 Location: Fort Myers Status: Offline Points: 145 |
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Isn't the avionics master run through the normal master switch? I've got an Archer with external power also and was considering just running the jumper to a 2nd battery. I still thought I'd have to turn the main master on (battery side only on the split switch).
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The cheapest price I find for the Cessna version of the 12V ground power supply is $249.50 at Chief Aircraft: http://www.chiefaircraft.com/sch-jac2512c.html
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I use a 12V Schauer portable power unit I bought from Aircraft Spruce a few years ago connected in parallel with a 12V used aircraft battery for external power for my 12V Piper Archer. With this airplane, this keeps me from having to turn the master (aircraft battery) on to power the avionics and helps protect against power outages and surges while the aircraft is externally powered.
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Flybuddy ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 25 Jan 2019 Location: Fort Myers Status: Offline Points: 145 |
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I've got the same issue as I'll be picking up my plane after a 440 install next week and the shop is 200 miles from home. I've got a few APs and IAs where I live although they tend to use me as their techie. Will Chris be at SunNFun?
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allenc3 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Feb 2019 Location: 32043 Status: Offline Points: 126 |
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I looked at that ground power unit, the 12 volt one being considerably cheaper if you call almost $300 cheap. I found you can purchase this thing cheaper on Aircraft Spruce's companion page called pilot Shop, and the shipping is free too,
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well, 2nm is not a small enough scale. compared to the garmin 650, the ifd440 is too cluttered. it would be a good thing to have a smaller (1/4nm) scale to focus in on certain airport/ground features. please see what you can do to make this happen. thanks, andy
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I have installed the software patches and my A&P/IA signs off on them. I got them from Chris. Just be aware that they take a long time to load. I attach ground power to my plane in order to not wear down the battery. In 12/14V planes, you can use a jumper and connect up to a running car. Aircraft Sprice sells portable power supplies too, like this one for a 24V plane:
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I have the same Issue. My AI here on my field signed off on the GPS rollover patch, which he signed and I faxed back to Avidyne. Can he sign off on the 10.2.3.1 Software when available? This would save me having to not only make a 2-3 hour round trip, but also save me having to take a day off during the week, as most avionics shops are not open on weekends
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Thank you.
Will do. Regards, Jim
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Call tech support, ask for Chris Evans, and explain the situation.
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Steve,
My avionics shop is a long way from home base. Going there for software updates means burning most of a day. My long time IA is willing to supervise my installation of updates to the IFD 540 and sign off my logs upon completion. I’m computer literate and have updated my brand G box but never the Avidyne which is still flawlessly running the software it had when it was installed in 2015. I want to get it up to date. Whom should I call at Avidyne to get access to the updates and get this started? I’ve already discussed this with my IA and he’s good to go with this. I just need to get pointed in the right direction. Regards, Jim
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I just received a new IFD540 last week, (3/4/19), to get installed week after next, will it have the updated software, 10.2.3.1?
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