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    Posted: 23 Oct 2019 at 1:13am
MapMx is out of our control.
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Would it be a big deal to add it, or is the MapMx interface contents outside Avidyne‘s control?
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Originally posted by dmtidler dmtidler wrote:

Does anyone know if the IFD’s export GPS AGL information through the MapMx protocol?
GPS AGL is not in the MapMx interface.
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I took another trip recently, and the Aux button does stay lit, however, you can clear the message on the screen now. It used to stay on. 

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Does anyone know if the IFD’s export GPS AGL information through the MapMx protocol? I was curious if this GPS info is passed when an IFD is connected to a Garmin G5...and thus allow a GFC500 to enable underspeed protection through its ESP feature. I could not find much in the way of details on this through many internet searches.

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My AUX button does stay lit still.  I can clear the CAS message that pops up but the AUX button stays lit the rest of the flight.  This has been happening consistently on my last several flights.
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Originally posted by HenryM HenryM wrote:

What happened before 10.2.3.1 was the you could not clear the the error and the AUX button would stay lit all the time whenever there were not airmets or segments. After 10.2.3.1, you can clear the message. The datalink message is saying that no airmets or sigmets have been received for a while, which is true when there are no airmets or sigmets to report. 

If so, perhaps an idea for the next software revision might be to have the datalink error message say: "No SIGMETS or AIRMETS Reported" instead of indicating some kind of "error" has occurred.
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What happened before 10.2.3.1 was the you could not clear the the error and the AUX button would stay lit all the time whenever there were not airmets or segments. After 10.2.3.1, you can clear the message. The datalink message is saying that no airmets or sigmets have been received for a while, which is true when there are no airmets or sigmets to report. 
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I still get it often out here in Nevada.   There must be something in the data that is seen as corrupt or missing that is tripping it.
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Yes, I’ve received those alerts as well, but less frequently.  I’ve assumed it’s because now the data loss is real to some extent, but I’ve not been able to confirm that. 
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I know one of the fixes with 10.2.3.1 was to eliminate nuisance "Datalink Data Not Rcvd" alerts.   It does seem like it fixed it as I was only getting an intermittent warning like that after the install but on my last several flights, I've been getting that alert about 5-10 minutes into the flight as before the update.  Has anyone else experienced this or have any ideas?
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Known problem that will be fixed in the next IFD100 release.  See http://avidynelive.com/ifd100-v-10-2-3-1-update_topic1764_post21807.html?KW=Designated#21807
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Anybody else having issues with setting a designated waypoint in the IFD100 with the latest sw 10.2.3.1 compatible IFD100 update?

While in MAP mode, I have tried selecting the designated waypoint datablock in about every way possible and cannot get it to open the virtual keyboard to enter a designated waypoint. BTW - I have not specifically tested the designated waypoint datablock on my IFD540 with sw 10.2.3.1 yet so I cannot say at this point if exhibits the same non-responsive behavior or not.
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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

Originally posted by donemory donemory wrote:

Since doing the 10.2.3.1 update, every time I power on my IFD540, (others say their IFD440 does the same), it displays the bottom end of my data blocks and I have to scroll back to the top. Has any one else had this issue and is there a way to correct it so that it displays the top end of the data blocks?  Avidyne any fix here?
The engineer investigating this has identified a workaround.
  1. Go to the Datablock Setup page
  2. Touch scroll the datablocks on the right side to the top
  3. Touch the top right side datablock to select it
  4. Using either touch or inner knob, change the selected datablock to anything else
  5. Using either touch or inner knob, change the selected datablock back to what you want
  6. Wait a second or two and then cycle power



Just completed the 10.2.3.1 update yesterday to my IFD540 and IFD100. This same general workaround also appears to work on the IFD100 datablocks only instead of cycling power in the last step, fully close / reopen the IFD100 app.
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Originally posted by HenryM HenryM wrote:

Nice detective work. 

If they restore the split baud rate, why would you want to go back as opposed to just leaving the system that works in place? I m just curious, not saying what is right.

I wouldn't but I'm not sure that will be an option.  GPS position reports at once a second at 9600bps are not very verbose compared to ADS-B in data.  So I'm not sure we will lose anything and of course Avidyne wants to be compatible.  The FDL-978 is really easy to configure as long as your maintenance serial port was brought out. Terra term and three hits of enter key gets it's attention.  They also are very helpful on their tech support.  If you are at Oshkosh still, they are in the same building as Avidyne, Brad was the one that helped me here and I think he is at the booth

P.S. I added a video to the message above showing the GPS command on the FDL-978. 


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Nice detective work. 

If they restore the split baud rate, why would you want to go back as opposed to just leaving the system that works in place? I m just curious, not saying what is right.
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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

The new software requires a change to the configuration (I think on both the FreeFlight box and the IFD).  To change it requires a maintenance action/signoff, so have your installer call tech support.

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, give a man a fishing pole, and he will fix his IFD

Once tech support told me what 10.2.3.1 broke, in that now you can't have split baud rates on a single serial port on the IFD, I figured it out pretty quickly.  The real clue, at least for me, was that WX and traffic FROM the FDL-978 was still working (at 115.200 baud as before).  The FDL-978 has some nice tools for debugging, the "GPS" command showed no fix from the IFD, and then changing the baud rate to 115,200 IN  from 9600bps on the FDL-978 immediately got me a GPS fix.

Yes, I'm aware Avidyne will restore split baud rates in the next release, so will have to change the FDL978 back. 

And no worries, my AP was working along with me all along.  It's important to note most AP's and many avionics shops are struggling to keep up, so I want to thank Avidyne for working with us owners who are computer savvy and "in the business".  More information is better for us as well, I'd like to start to see errata sheets and change logs with your new releases, it would have saved me and my AP alot of time and less calls to your tech support.

Here is a short video of the FDL-978 at 115,200 in with the GPS command running. This was taken about 30 seconds after I changed the serial in from 9600bps to 115,200 and my error message ont he IFD550 went away.



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I have been having a similar issue as N8906M with my IFD440, I have intermittent GPS failure, where the unit is not acquiring any satellites. 

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Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

Was there improvement to the way the IFD540 displays traffic from a TAS6xx unit?  Previously, My combination if IFD540 and TAS620A had reliable traffic to 10NM. After the update, on my recent few flights, I seem to have more reliability in the traffic, and the range seems to now be out to 15NM.  I have not activated the /A in my TAS unit yet.
No, nothing changed.  We'll have a look for something unintentional.  If we find anything, we can dial it back down :)
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Was there improvement to the way the IFD540 displays traffic from a TAS6xx unit?  Previously, My combination if IFD540 and TAS620A had reliable traffic to 10NM. After the update, on my recent few flights, I seem to have more reliability in the traffic, and the range seems to now be out to 15NM.  I have not activated the /A in my TAS unit yet.
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If the unit was pulled from the stack to do the update,  be sure that it is properly reseated.

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did the antenna wire get disconnected during annual?
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Me too - just finished Annual and did the latest release, and flew back home, with GPS inactive...big Red X. Going to the menu at home airport, no satellites.  Is this a "settings" issue ??  Would appreciate any assistance at troubleshooting.
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Originally posted by wb8wka wb8wka wrote:

Originally posted by scott_757 scott_757 wrote:

Did the update on my IFD 440 this morning along with my SC and everything completed with no errors but now getting an "ADS-B GPS Position Invalid: ADS-B Traffic Sensor lacks GPS position" error on my IFD.  It's connected to a FreeFlight RANGR and everything worked before the IFD upgrade.  The input/output configs on the IFD match what they were before the upgrade.  Any thoughts on what to check?

Mark me down as a third.  I'm suprised nobody responded to this.
The new software requires a change to the configuration (I think on both the FreeFlight box and the IFD).  To change it requires a maintenance action/signoff, so have your installer call tech support.
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Originally posted by scott_757 scott_757 wrote:

Did the update on my IFD 440 this morning along with my SC and everything completed with no errors but now getting an "ADS-B GPS Position Invalid: ADS-B Traffic Sensor lacks GPS position" error on my IFD.  It's connected to a FreeFlight RANGR and everything worked before the IFD upgrade.  The input/output configs on the IFD match what they were before the upgrade.  Any thoughts on what to check?

Mark me down as a third.  I'm suprised nobody responded to this.
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I just finished doing it as well on an IFD550 here and that did work.   Excellent!
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Originally posted by AviSteve AviSteve wrote:

The engineer investigating this has identified a workaround. ...


It worked!

Thanks.

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Interesting, will give that a try this afternoon!

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Originally posted by donemory donemory wrote:

Since doing the 10.2.3.1 update, every time I power on my IFD540, (others say their IFD440 does the same), it displays the bottom end of my data blocks and I have to scroll back to the top. Has any one else had this issue and is there a way to correct it so that it displays the top end of the data blocks?  Avidyne any fix here?
The engineer investigating this has identified a workaround.
  1. Go to the Datablock Setup page
  2. Touch scroll the datablocks on the right side to the top
  3. Touch the top right side datablock to select it
  4. Using either touch or inner knob, change the selected datablock to anything else
  5. Using either touch or inner knob, change the selected datablock back to what you want
  6. Wait a second or two and then cycle power

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Thanks, Steve.
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The G5 is called out in the IFD Installation Manual as an approved pairing.  There is no mention of a GFC500 autopilot, since that is driven by the G5.
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Re: 10.2.3.1

It is probably noted somewhere within this thread, but I did not find it.

Does the documentation for 10.2.3.1 call out the G5 devices such that the IFD can be the position source to drive a G5 with attached GFC500 autopilot?

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Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

I bet that is it because the FMS doesn’t have an origin in the flight plan.  It doesn’t know where it is.
Nothing to do with the flight plan.  Purely GPS groundspeed and AGL altitude.  If GPS is not valid, the system should go to the last known state.  Sounds like somehow you got into an "airborne" state before powering down and then on the next power-up, the IFD thought it was still airborne.  Just moving the aircraft to a place where it gets GPS should restore the buttons.
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I saw this last week also. Scrolling through the alert the notification was for no airmets received for 120 minutes.

Also saw the no-taws warning (along with no sv on the Aspen) so there was some glitch going on

There appeared to be no active airmets on the west coast at the time.  Return trip there were airmets, and no alerts and no problems.

It’s 10.2.3.1 on my IFD540 so something odd is going on. Have a longer trip next week and anxious to see it happens again...


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Myself and one of our customers are still occasionally getting the Datalink data not received error.   He had it departing North Las Vegas a few weeks ago and I got it departing Reno last week.   I am not getting it in flight like I was before.   Just wondering if anyone else is seeing this and if there are any particular conditions that may be triggering this.

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You had me wondering myself but I really thought I had entered configuration mode that way since the upgrade.  When I went flying tonight, I tried it on the ground before takeoff and it does behave as it did previously.   I also think I have done it in my hanger before also so I’m a little confused. Report back when you’ve tried again please
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Steve, that is interesting because I was in my hangar.  With that information, I’ll have to go fly an have the unit reacquire the GPS signal.  I bet that is it because the FMS doesn’t have an origin in the flight plan.  It doesn’t know where it is.

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That button is disabled when the IFD thinks the aircraft is airborne.
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Question, It looks like on the SYS Page and SYS Tab, when the LSK is pressed to show databases, there is no longer an LSK option to update the databases. Pressing this LSK use to reboot the IFD into maintenance mode. Am I just missing something?
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Reinforcing the Map/Data Blocks scrolling down on boot-up issue, even tho' Steve said  "Consensus; will fix in the next release..."  

Sure wish Jepp had some more competition for the Nav Data, Obstacles and Charts!

Other than that, all's good.  No: All's GREAT!
Thanks, Steve, et al!


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Originally posted by mfb mfb wrote:

Avidyne wasn't as helpful.

You forgot the words:  "... unless I paid for the repair."

When my 430W went south Garmin wouldn't "help" me either.  I refused to pay, bought a new IFD instead.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mfb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jun 2019 at 11:18pm
Here's a new one:

I had my IFD540 updated to 10.2.3.1 several weeks ago. Everything went fine.

Last week I tried to install a new Jeppesen nav database. The 540 gave me a "KVF error." I powered down and tried several more times but always got the same error.

Avidyne tech support told me to try a different USB memory stick. So I did a low-level FAT32 reformat on several sticks and downloaded the database directly from Jep to each of them. The same error message came up on each.

Tech support then concluded that if the problem wasn't in the memory sticks, it must be in the IFD box. So they had my shop do a "compact flash re-flash" on the box. Basically they had to erase everything and build up the entire firmware and software load from scratch. It took three hours, most of which was spent waiting for the box to finish doing its thing.

That seems to have fixed the problem. The Jep database loaded without incident and the IFD works, for now, anyway. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on the next update.

Moral of the story: This was the first nav database I tried to load after the 10.2.3.1 update. The problem might have appeared immediately after the update was done if I had tried a database load then. It would have been easier to fix at that time. So load a database after you do the software update, just to make sure you can do it. (The update leaves the existing nav database intact.)

Fortunately for me, my shop covered the re-load under its own warranty and I was there anyway, taking care of some other stuff. Avidyne wasn't as helpful. They told me that I was on my own because the basic warranty on the IFD box had expired and I hadn't bought the extended warranty. (Which I would have, except for Avidyne's indemnification clause, But that's another story.)

So it goes....

Mike


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote teeth6 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jun 2019 at 9:46pm
Interestingly, upon startup, I do NOT get the datablock scroll issue on my top 550 box but do see it  on the bottom 540 box.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AviSteve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jun 2019 at 10:06am
Sounds like a consensus.  We'll find it and fix it in the next release.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ddgates Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jun 2019 at 9:43am
Originally posted by n7ifr n7ifr wrote:

Same issue here... 
Not too inconvenient though, just a flick of the finger to scroll back up.

Tom W.
 
Same here.  First release where this has done this.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DH82FLYER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 2019 at 6:24am
Since this software update, there appears to be a problem with the Fuel Range Rings.

The problem occurs if I zoom the map out to around 800 miles to check the Fuel Range Rings and then pan across and zoom in on the rings. 

They then suddenly disappear at a map range of 80 miles and below.

They reappear when I zoom back out. 

This issue occurs whether I zoom with either the knob or the touch screen. 

Has anyone else seen this behaviour?


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Thanks for the explanation, Steve.
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