![]() |
Early Feedback on the IFD540 |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page <12 |
Author | |
TurboPA30 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2010 Location: 27XS Status: Offline Points: 138 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
OK, so it will be some time before I retire my EX600.... was playing with the thought of replacing it with a second IFD540. Especially the MLX would greatly benefit from the QUERTY entry....
Guess asking the question on Radar (ART2000/2100) support is even further off then.
|
|
![]() |
|
AviJake ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Location: Lincoln MA Status: Offline Points: 2815 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
No problem.
And as a sidenote, the iOS 8 version of the 540 app was finally approved by Apple a few days ago and is available for download.
|
|
Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com |
|
![]() |
|
Joe Jet ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Dec 2013 Location: F70 Status: Offline Points: 73 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re map view options.
I was looking in the map setup not user options area. Fortunately my wife did not put ios 8.0.x on her ipad mini so I was able to find it on the simulator. Since I have no AHRS or flux input to my 540 I would imagine I do not have the option for heading up just like no data for VSR. We are flying to Phoenix again Monday so ill try it all out in the actual aircraft then. Thanks for the manual references, but trying to stay out of the books; get enough of that in my professional flying. The ease of use and intuitiveness allowing the performance of so many complex navigation and flight management tasks makes the IFD540 a really enjoyable experience and is a testament to the well thought out design and effort that has gone into its production. I feel like a kid with a new toy. |
|
![]() |
|
AviJake ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Location: Lincoln MA Status: Offline Points: 2815 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I'm afraid it will not. There will be support in Rel 10.1 for remote boxes, just not the two you're asking about. (And for clarification, I presume the TWX support you're asking about is enhanced colored strike mode like the avatar you're using? Basic TWX support exists already in the shipping 540s).
|
|
Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com |
|
![]() |
|
TurboPA30 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2010 Location: 27XS Status: Offline Points: 138 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Steve,
can you disclose if 10.1 will improve the support for Avidyne remote boxes, notably TWX670 and MLX770?
|
|
![]() |
|
AviJake ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Location: Lincoln MA Status: Offline Points: 2815 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Joe Jet,
Good to hear. We're getting a lot of private feedback along the same lines. (We do however have a few challenged installs going on with various problems that we're working through). As for your issues: 1. If I recall, you don't have any baro source connected to the 540, right? That would include units like the Aspen PFD, Garmin G500, and stand alone air data computers. If that's a correct memory, then no VSR data populated is expected for your installation for this initial release. We've added the ability to populate items looking for baro input even when no baro input exists by using GPS altitude data in an upcoming software release (Release 10.1). But for now, no dice without baro input. (See page 4-24 of the pilot guide). 2. Sounds like a little mixing and matching going on here. You have two controls for map orientation. The first is via the User Options page (see page 4-36 of the pilot guide) where you get to choose between Heading Up and Track Up. Once that is set, then use the push action of the bottom right knob when on the Map page (see page 3-2 of the pilot guide) where you get to cycle between Heading or Track Up 360 (the heading vs track was set in the first step), Heading or Track Up Arc view, and North Up. That should do the trick. I couldn't tell from the write up if you want Heading Up vs North Up or Track Up vs North Up.
|
|
Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com |
|
![]() |
|
Joe Jet ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Dec 2013 Location: F70 Status: Offline Points: 73 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Phoenix and back today with my new 540. I can't believe how nice it is to fly with. I had my ipad and sectionals along, but didnt need either. The 540 really reduces workload for both VFR and IFR flight and the need for an ipad or hard copies of charts. I have flown Collins, Honeywell, UNS and the Sperry/Honeywell and GE/Smith Industries systems in numerous corporate jets and Boeings and the Avidyne 540 is by far one of the easiest and most productive units to fly with......simply awesome!
Only issues I had, which may be operator error, were 1. Couldnt get any data to display in the VSR block, and 2. I couldn't find in the Map setup where to change the orientation of the map display. I would like it to be track up vs North up. |
|
![]() |
|
Joe Jet ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Dec 2013 Location: F70 Status: Offline Points: 73 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Wow. What an absolute pleasure to fly with. I had my data blocks set up on the ramp in 5" including my flight plan home. A couple of other interesting things we noticed vs the Garmin 750 they had in their showroom. When you move the map on the 540 using the touch screen the map follows as you move your finger. The GTN 750 lagged, the map would go blank, then after it caught up to your finger it would take some time to fill in. The Garmin had a slow processor, less memory, and/or inefficient code in its software. The other thing I noticed was that the Avidyne 540 satellite reception was not affected at all by transmitting on my KX155. Under the same circumstances, the Garmin 530W would drop satellite signal strength completely then some would return to a lower level. The Avidyne is obviously of higher quality, shielded better and an overall better design. |
|
![]() |
|
SB Jim ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 30 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 209 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Thanks. Jim |
|
![]() |
|
roltman ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 04 Aug 2011 Status: Offline Points: 173 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
IMHO, it'd be baseless hearsay with my unit. The iPad/Computer app takes much longer to respond than the real unit. Its response time was one of the surprises I mentioned when I first used it. The only lag I can recall is a very slight lag when first selecting an airway during on mapped FMS page during flight planning phase prior to selecting waypoints on the airway, but it's on the order of 1/10th or 2/10ths of a second. I only have a about 10hrs with it thus far, but I think I've thrown almost everything I can at it on including using the Jepp IFR charts to complex airway routes. Every button press is instant from what I've seen, much better than my GNS430W where I can push its buttons faster than it can respond. Edited by roltman - 03 Oct 2014 at 10:51am |
|
![]() |
|
SB Jim ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 30 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 209 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Recently an acquaintance mentioned a latency concern regarding the 540 in terms of the time it took after pressing a button to see the result.
Any truth to this? Or is this just baseless hearsay? Jim |
|
![]() |
|
oskrypuch ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 2012 Location: CYFD Status: Offline Points: 3062 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Good to hear.
* Orest |
|
![]() |
|
GRINGODS ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Sep 2014 Location: SANTA BARBARA Status: Offline Points: 6 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
OWNER B58G
I upgraded my 530W to IFD540 last week and couldn't be happier. I have Skywatch Traffic 497 (ARINC) and mid continent switching unit. Took less than an hour to install and program. The automation, switching, display and information is very intuitive. It is simple to use and yet as complex as one could imagine. The sales team/tech support have been very easy to reach and any questions have been answered immediately. I believe Avidyne wants their units to interact with other companies products. The company has evolved into something quite spectacular....immediate response, state of the art products in the IVD540, and more features to be added - incredible support and the ability to do data downloads and analysis instantaneously. This should save AOG. situations and rule out any malfunctions caused by the box itself. If the above does not reflect it, let me say I'm thrilled with the upgrade. No, I don't work for Avidyne, and I paid full price for the IVD540 - just a very satisfied customer. |
|
![]() |
|
ddgates ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Deer Valley Status: Offline Points: 1100 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Install is in progress, Steve. Can you give me the monitor pinouts please? Thanks. David
|
|
David Gates
|
|
![]() |
|
oskrypuch ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 2012 Location: CYFD Status: Offline Points: 3062 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Note that the "free" add-on Aeroplan year(s) are optional. Aeroplan stirred some initial controversy with its required waiver. I don't know if that has been amended, or if there is a pricier Aeroplan Plus, without the waiver. Buyer be aware.
* Orest
Edited by oskrypuch - 24 Sep 2014 at 9:17am |
|
![]() |
|
Paul ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Aug 2012 Location: Massachusetts Status: Offline Points: 285 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I was kidding about the t-shirt. I just meant to point out that there were ways that Avidyne could encourage the pre-buy folks to purchase additional equipment while protecting their dealers.
|
|
![]() |
|
pburger ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Dec 2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 406 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Some Avidyne folks drove through the North 40 at Oshkosh last year throwing out IFD-540 t-shirts. The fact that I was a preebie had nothing to do with it. I do like the shirt, though. I'm not sure if they gave any out this year - if so, I missed them.
|
|
![]() |
|
AviJake ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Location: Lincoln MA Status: Offline Points: 2815 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
As for warranty questions:
Pre-buy people get 2 years + 1 additional year (total of 3 years) if they register and sign up for AeroPlan on myAvidyne.com All other customers get 1 year of warranty + 2 additional years (total of 3 years) if they sign up for AeroPlan. As for T-shirts, I have no idea but I have a few ratty t-shirts I can donate..... |
|
Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com |
|
![]() |
|
Paul ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Aug 2012 Location: Massachusetts Status: Offline Points: 285 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I missed out on a t-shirt???
|
|
![]() |
|
pburger ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Dec 2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 406 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I don't know about y'all, but I already got my t-shirt.
|
|
![]() |
|
Paul ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Aug 2012 Location: Massachusetts Status: Offline Points: 285 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
So we get an extra year of warranty for our early purchase. That seems reasonable. And they already have a survey? Cool.
|
|
![]() |
|
oskrypuch ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 2012 Location: CYFD Status: Offline Points: 3062 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
IIRC, there is an automatic additional year add-on for the pre-buyers, and there is a third year available of an after warranty coverage plan available "free" if you register and do a survey.
For the non pre-buyers, they get one year, and the same additional one year of after warranty coverage (total of two together) if they do the registration and survey. I may be off by a year, I'm sure Steve can give us the full skinny. * Orest |
|
![]() |
|
Paul ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Aug 2012 Location: Massachusetts Status: Offline Points: 285 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I thought everyone got that if they registered their IFD. Is it just the early buyers?
|
|
![]() |
|
oskrypuch ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 2012 Location: CYFD Status: Offline Points: 3062 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Actually, pre-ship buyers do get an extra year's warranty already, two years total I believe. * Orest |
|
![]() |
|
Paul ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Aug 2012 Location: Massachusetts Status: Offline Points: 285 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
If the goal is to placate the advanced purchasers and/or to drive more attach sales the obvious answer is to offer rebates or other offers to people who buy an Avidyne audio panel or transponder from a dealer and install it at the same time as the pre-purchased IFD.
A rebate should be enough to drive additional sales while being less than the discount the people who pre-purchased the panel or transponder got. Someone else suggested you could extend the warranty for those of us who have been waiting years and that would be nice but of course you have to consider the cost to Avidyne. You could also give away something, like an exclusive pre-purchaser t-shirt. If you do that you could have the sign-up on the web and include a survey where you collect info such as how the installation went, what equipment was removed, and what equipment is now in the stack. Marketing people love that kind of information. If you provide t-shirts make them good quality. There's nothing quite like a group of fat old pilots wearing ratty shirts with your corporate logo on them... |
|
![]() |
|
ddgates ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Deer Valley Status: Offline Points: 1100 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Steve:
Thanks. My install will need the enlightenment this week. N.B. "Command central" isn't _always_ complimentary <at least in my corporation!> Please advise.
|
|
David Gates
|
|
![]() |
|
AviJake ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Location: Lincoln MA Status: Offline Points: 2815 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Ohh, I like the tag "Command Central".
Yes, those are all in the IM but arguably, well disguised. In my test airplane, I have all 4. I couldn't care less personally about #2 but I'm addicted to #1 and #3. We'll discuss internally this week (we meet every Tues and Thurs on these kinds of topics) and see if we can improve the clarity of some of those options/recommendations. |
|
Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com |
|
![]() |
|
ddgates ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Deer Valley Status: Offline Points: 1100 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Steve:
As I wander through this process aimlessly, I observe the two 540s I am installing is a new trick to my shop (which does largely brand G stuff). I note that there are interesting value adds that the shop can do. Those mentioned by Gring (new alias - "The Pioneer") include 1. com swap yoke mount switch (to audio panel) 2. TXP ident yoke mount switch (to TXP) 3. frequency swap yoke mount switch (to IFD) 4. connectors to audio panel to provision stby monitor feature when activated. And there may be more. Are these called out in the Install Manual? I get the impression that those currently installing are trailblazing through these issues. Any way to simplify <i.e., enlightenment from Avidyne command central>? Thanks DMG
|
|
David Gates
|
|
![]() |
|
SB Jim ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 30 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 209 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hello Jake,
It's hard for anyone to disagree with that. :-) For what it's worth my plan is to inquire about any bundling opportunities when Avidyne calls to arrange a delivery date. I'll certainly ask the local shop as well. As I mentioned earlier I already bet on Avidyne once, I could be motivated to bet some more. Regards, Jim |
|
![]() |
|
AviJake ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Location: Lincoln MA Status: Offline Points: 2815 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
As I'm sure you're well aware, Avidyne has received an
exceptional amount of feedback with respect to the field roll out of the
IFD540.
One of the big areas centers around delivery dates. Our sales/service crew are working their way through a mountain of backlog and trying to contact each individual high in the queue to arrange specific shipping dates/plans. They are slowly but surely digging their way out of the giant backlog. We know there are still "Month 1" folks who haven't been contacted and they will try to get to you soon. Another big topic of feedback centers around the public offer for a heavily discounted transponder for new customers. That has rubbed some folks the wrong way and a general ask is for Avidyne to do something to protect the early mover advantage that many of the pre-buy folks sought. Without diving into the specifics here on the forum, I will say a few thingsā¦.. a short time prior to cert, we moved from a customer direct model back to the dealer network sales model. That means all quotes now must come from the dealer (Avidyne --> dealer --> customer). Of course Avidyne deals directly with the dealers but we're intent on working with the dealer to try and accommodate your specific concerns/asks. |
|
Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com |
|
![]() |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page <12 |
Tweet
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions ![]() You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |