Remove Jep Charts from 540

I have a 540 in my airplane and decided to stop paying for charts with Jeppsen; I do still get other data for the unit. Now each time I start the unit points out that my charts are out of date.

Is there any way to tell the 540 that I no longer update the charts? Or to remove that portion of the database so it doesn't look for updates?

AviSteve:

I'd like that DSF too. I would like to get rid of charts that aren't even for the part of the country I fly in.

I also have an old obstacles database, but I suppose that database is better than nothing. I only update those once a year, and I also have them on Foreflight.

I would also like the DSF, please and thank you.

FlyingCOham wrote:

I too have an old set of charts in my 540. The problem is there are stiil many charts in that edition that are still completely current but the 540 cripples them because they came in a set that is more than 60 days old.
Example: La Junta, RNAV approaches to 08 & 26. Both were last changed in 2009 and are still valid but the 540 has no way for the user to tell it they are still current so they are crippled... ( : < ) BTW, if you have a paper copy from 2009 it is still completely legal as long as the pilot verifies it is the current chart.

From 540 Pilot Guide: "Charts that have been expired for 60 or more days will still be displayed and readable indefinitely but a watermark “Not for Navigation” will be depicted on each chart. The flight plan will not be overlaid on expired charts" Boo!

The IFD does not have the ability to verify what, if any charts from an outdated chart database are still current. From a Avidyne liability standpoint, I think the policy regarding charts that are more than four chart cycles out of date is perfectly reasonable.

Edited by dmtidler - 22 Oct 2020 at 6:54pm

FlyingCOham wrote:

I'm not suggesting the system should be able to identify charts that are still valid - that's crazy to expect. That's the pilot's responsibility. The problem is there is no way for the pilot to exercise his/her responsibility and tell the system that this chart is still valid.

Why as a pilot do you feel responsible to "tell the system that this chart is still valid?" A chart is for your reference. Your responsibility under IFR is to utilize charts you know to be valid. I see no pilot responsibility to "tell the system" anything. What am I missing?

If you have confirmed the chart is current and valid, you can use it flying IFR and can ignore any flags provided by the system to inform you its chart cycle is out of date. There's no need to inform "the system" of your decision in that regard.

FlyingCOham wrote:

The problem is the 540 s/w cripples the chart if the package it came in is over 60 days old. There's no way to tell the 540 that the chart you are trying to use is still valid and should not be crippled.
From 540 Pilot Guide: "Charts that have been expired for 60 or more days will still be displayed and readable indefinitely but a watermark “Not for Navigation” will be depicted on each chart. The flight plan will not be overlaid on expired charts"

This brings up a couple of questions. With the Avidyne packages of digital Jeppesen chart databases, how do you determine that a procedure you're referencing is in fact the current procedure if the chart database the procedure comes from is not the current chart database?

With paper Jeppesen revisions, there was a master list of current charts with each revision that could be referenced to verify each procedure's currency. Is there an equivalent online accessible Jeppesen master list of current procedures you're using to cross check the currency of each procedure you're referencing from an out of date database every 14 days?

Edited by dmtidler - 22 Oct 2020 at 7:18pm

Example: this IAP was last changed on 27Aug2009

Jim Patton

Back to the issue. The pilot can pull out a still valid 10 year old paper IAP and use it legally but has no way to tell the 540 that the same chart is still valid - getting rid of the watermark and enabling the flight plan on the chart.

Jim Patton

Not long, I'd be happy with a few hours or a power cycle.

Jim Patton

Kinda late to the party, but can I get the DSF as well?

While we're bandwaggoning ;-)

@AviSteve, Can I have the DSF as well?

Can I also get the DSF?